Cory Gardner and Thom Tillis won by running to the center; will they stay there?

[pbrower2a]

Dropping the Koch brothers would kill GOP support for comprehensive Immigration reform/amnesty but bring the minimum wage on the table for most of the newer less then solid conservative members, particularly in the midwest and Northeast. You want that trade?

I want the GOP to put their ideas, putrid as they may be, on the table for all to see. I want people to decide whether they really want the whole agenda -- best described with the insult, "Suffer for my greed, you peon!" I want them to expose their contempt for the poor, contempt for education, contempt for the environment, and contempt for reason out in the open so that we can all decide whether we really like it.  If people really want it, then so be it.

I am sick of the pattern of GOP pols who run as nice guys only to coordinate with front groups that flood the media with Newspeak denunciations of liberalism. I don't know whether you read 1984, but it seems that the incessant propaganda that completely destroys the ability to think in any way but the prescribed way that utterly grinds people down.     

[CountryClassSF]

Odd. Y'all were running ads claiming they wanted to ban birth control. Now you're saying they ran to the center? lol

[Kushahontas]

Odd. Y'all were running ads claiming they wanted to ban birth control. Now you're saying they ran to the center? lol

well yeah, we all know their stances but in Gardner's case he distanced himself from his Personhood sponsorship.............

[CountryClassSF]

Odd. Y'all were running ads claiming they wanted to ban birth control. Now you're saying they ran to the center? lol

well yeah, we all know their stances but in Gardner's case he distanced himself from his Personhood sponsorship.............

Which is fine by me. He can oppose Personhood bills til the cows come home. He didn't run away from his pro-life views.  The goal is conservative judges. Actually, pro-life groups have opposed personhood bills. Not sure why, but they're not judgment of whether a state is pro-life or pro-abort.

Him and Joni Ernst are my favorite of the new class of Senators. TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD!

[Person Man]

Odd. Y'all were running ads claiming they wanted to ban birth control. Now you're saying they ran to the center? lol

well yeah, we all know their stances but in Gardner's case he distanced himself from his Personhood sponsorship.............

While keeping it. Gardner's talents are definitely unique. He's definitely Schrodinger's Senator. Indeterminacy may just be the way we see it as not having lived to see the next enlightenment.  When will that be 20 years from now? 1000 years from now?

[CountryClassSF]

Odd. Y'all were running ads claiming they wanted to ban birth control. Now you're saying they ran to the center? lol

well yeah, we all know their stances but in Gardner's case he distanced himself from his Personhood sponsorship.............

While keeping it. Gardner's talents are definitely unique. He's definitely Schrodinger's Senator. Indeterminacy may just be the way we see it as not having lived to see the next enlightenment.  When will that be 20 years from now? 1000 years from now?

I truly love him and he was the 2nd biggest victory this cycle next to Ernst. He has the ability to say what he thinks while smiling. He's a very good retail politician.  DailyKos Elections even called out the Dem spinsters on Twitter.  They were fearmongering the entire way through that he was going to "ban birth control" and "ban condoms" (yes, no exaggeration), particularly NARAL.  And now post -election they claim that he ran a centrist campaign.

If anything, Thom Tillis started off centrist, then moved to the right, especially on amnesty.  These were thrilling wins by conservatives who did not shy away from conservative ideas, they just presented them in a fashion where the liberal press could not spin their beliefs. Thank God!

[Miles]

Tillis ran to the center the very last week (blatantly changing position on Medicaid expansion, for example) but his fearmongering on ISIS was the bigger reason why he won.

[krazen1211]

If people really want it, then so be it.

They did. You lost. Check out all the hilarity in this thread.

Snyder will be in great shape in 2014.

Because most Governors with 37/54 approvals are reelected just fine!

I'm so glad Governor Perdue is still in office!

plus I never constantly overrated Democratic chances.

Check the election results? Your predictions were wrong.

PPP sure as hell isn't arbitrary. It's actually quite accurate (almost as accurate as Quinnipiac), and EPIC-MRA had similar results.

Comparing Christie and Walker to Rick Snyder's even more ludicrous than comparing him to Quinn. Christie salvaged his approvals with the way he handled Sandy, and well, Walker was smart enough to enact it early in his term. He's made up for his mistakes enough to earn him reelection. Snyder was stupid, though, and passed it right after the election in 2012. And trust me, voters will remember RTW when they go to the voting booths.

Just more than a year after union busting, Mr. Scott Walker already won re-election, once.

That was a recall. If that was a regular election, he would have lost.

[free my dawg]

Tillis won't. He doesn't have the political skill to be a centrist.

Gardner, though, is a different story.

[Miles]

^ But it was such glorious news that that Romney was surging across the midwest!

Of course, its kinda, er, hilarious that he lost!

[Person Man]

Tillis won't. He doesn't have the political skill to be a centrist.

Gardner, though, is a different story.

He'll be both reactionary and moderate, much to the divine praise of TEA party activists. It will transcend our current understanding of reality. Maybe CERN will help understand the Gardener.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Tillis ran to the center the very last week (blatantly changing position on Medicaid expansion, for example) but his fearmongering on ISIS was the bigger reason why he won.

What, where?

[pbrower2a]

We shall see whether any Republican winner votes his conscience or follows the orders of the Koch fronts who want a plutocratic oligarchy in America.

[Person Man]

We shall see whether any Republican winner votes his conscience or follows the orders of the Koch fronts who want a plutocratic oligarchy in America.

or those 20000 voters in Alamosa, Loveland and Cherry Creek that put him there.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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It is what I expected to happen after Tillis won the primary and the administrative problems in DHHS provide a good cover for the flip flop.

[hopper]

We shall see whether any Republican winner votes his conscience or follows the orders of the Koch fronts who want a plutocratic oligarchy in America.

Please the Dems have Soros and Steyer to worry about just  as the Repubs have Adelson and The Kochs to worry about.

[Vosem]

We shall see whether any Republican winner votes his conscience or follows the orders of the Koch fronts who want a plutocratic oligarchy in America.

Those things are the same

[CountryClassSF]

Tillis ran to the center the very last week (blatantly changing position on Medicaid expansion, for example) but his fearmongering on ISIS was the bigger reason why he won.

Keep in mind that Hagan missed a hearing on ISIS to attend a fundraising confab.  That's pretty well within the bounds of pointing out to voters.

I had written Tillis off ages ago. I don't think he led in a single poll all year.  Lots of folks sure underestimated him, myself included.

[RedSLC]

Tillis ran to the center the very last week (blatantly changing position on Medicaid expansion, for example) but his fearmongering on ISIS was the bigger reason why he won.

Keep in mind that Hagan missed a hearing on ISIS to attend a fundraising confab.  That's pretty well within the bounds of pointing out to voters.

No, it isn't. It's a trivial wedge issue that only islamophobes will care about.

[CountryClassSF]

Tillis ran to the center the very last week (blatantly changing position on Medicaid expansion, for example) but his fearmongering on ISIS was the bigger reason why he won.

Keep in mind that Hagan missed a hearing on ISIS to attend a fundraising confab.  That's pretty well within the bounds of pointing out to voters.

No, it isn't. It's a trivial wedge issue that only islamophobes will care about.

You're ranting about islamophobia when ISIS is chopping off heads?

[pbrower2a]

The Koch syndicate has a view to a total makeover of American politics and even education.
 
If a university wants a big donation to its endowment, there might be strings attached -- like the Koch Brothers telling the university what professors to hire in politically-sensitive subjects.

The Koch agenda on K-12 education: push charter schools to gut public education.

Who needs public broadcasting when people can instead watch FoX "News" Channel and listen to Rush Limbaugh?

According to the oily Koch syndicate and its Heartland Institute front, all the scare stories about climate change detract humanity from its 'need' to burn more fossil fuels  and make the Koch family even richer and more powerful.

The Koch Foundation does much of its politics through the tax-exempt ALEC which uses salami tactics at the State level.

Remember Solyndra? Blame Obama for crony-friendly deals of the George W. Bush Administration

Masters of plausible denial on the fake-populist effort to dismantle Obamacare on behalf of the old run-out-of-money-and-die system in America

Who cares about the environment? Just make a toxic waste pile in Detroit.

Vote as your employer wants you or risk being fired

Don't forget to dismantle Social Security so that profiteers can grab even more of America!

Do you know who sponsored the Tea Party? You can find out here. With right-wing politics, "Things go better with Koch."

They would love to deny organizing the Tea Party, but the Koch brothers organized the leadership sessions for the first stages of it

Koch-funded denial of global warming goes so far as to connect opposition to it to being in league with murderous cult leader Charles Manson and Ted "Unabom" Kaczynski

[krazen1211]

Ah, I remember this today. Tillis certainly conquered the lazy moochers!