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« Reply #50 on: November 18, 2014, 12:52:25 AM »

Of course, but nothing to the tune of 90% outside of the Castro or Haight. This area is full of granola eaters and latte drinkers- that embraced the counterculturist lifestyle and were unable to reside in a traditional American community.

The 20th most Democratic city in California is hardly unique for having heavily Democratic areas.

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« Reply #51 on: November 18, 2014, 02:18:01 AM »

Of course, but nothing to the tune of 90% outside of the Castro or Haight. This area is full of granola eaters and latte drinkers- that embraced the counterculturist lifestyle and were unable to reside in a traditional American community.

The 20th most Democratic city in California is hardly unique for having heavily Democratic areas.

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Of course not, but Mill Valley does not vote 90% Democrat. Us White Californians voted for Romney.
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« Reply #52 on: November 19, 2014, 12:12:40 AM »

ME-02 race is striking.  The 3rd party candidate I think was a conservative.  He got something around 10-11%, but Polinquin (sp?) still won.

I think this is the first time a Republican has held this seat since Olympia Snowe before she ran for Senate.  

What's more impressive is that LePage improved his 2010 standing, and exit polls showed he would have won by 3 points without Cutler in the race.  Remarkable.  This was very pleasant, and he is a kind-hearted governor and one of my favorite executives.  He won everywhere but Portland, which has more in common with San Francisco than it does Maine.

In response to your commentary, who on the Right is advocating or has advocated wage cuts?

You're assuming that the people who voted for the independent were all people who thought Poliquin is a RINO, when in reality most of them were probably just generic protest votes.
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« Reply #53 on: November 19, 2014, 02:29:13 AM »
« Edited: November 19, 2014, 02:52:48 AM by TheDeadFlagBlues »

Of course, but nothing to the tune of 90% outside of the Castro or Haight. This area is full of granola eaters and latte drinkers- that embraced the counterculturist lifestyle and were unable to reside in a traditional American community.

The 20th most Democratic city in California is hardly unique for having heavily Democratic areas.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=94829

Of course not, but Mill Valley does not vote 90% Democrat. Us White Californians voted for Romney.

Mill Valley 2012 Presidential Election
Barack Obama 81.5%
Mitt Romney 16.2%

Mill Valley 2010 Gubernatorial Election
Jerry Brown 78.6%
Meg Whitman 19.9%

I could point to a litany list of very affluent white Californian suburbs, small towns and urban neighborhoods where Barack Obama received between 80% and 95% of the vote in 2012. Cities like Rancho Cucomonda or Bakersfield or Yorba Linda are outliers: white Californians are not conservative. I'd estimate that white Californians gave Barack Obama around 48 - 50% of the vote in 2012. The preponderance of evidence does not suggest that white Californians are "conservative" or that they supported Mitt Romney.


Atherton (Median Household Income: $250,000, 80% White )

2012 Presidential Election
Mitt Romney 51.5%
Barack Obama 46.6%

Piedmont (Median Household Income: $149,000, 74% White)

2012 Presidential Election
Barack Obama 74.8%
Mitt Romney 23.4%

Orinda (Median Household Income: $187,000, 82% White)

2012 Presidential Election
Barack Obama 62.7%
Mitt Romney 34.7%

Danville (Median Household Income: $129,000, 83% White)

2012 Presidential Election
Barack Obama 49.8%
Mitt Romney 48.3%

These data points hardly support your notion that whites are aggressively trending towards Republicans due to the supposed race war initiated by Barack Hussein Obola. Outside of the old Confederacy, whites are pretty split between the GOP and the Democratic Party. That's not to say that they didn't support Romney in 2012 but they're a core constituency of the Democratic Party in Washington, Oregon, California, Minnesota and New England.

Only ignorant fools believe the narrative that white "makers" vote for Republicans and that brown "takers" vote for the Democrats. Wealthy white urban neighborhoods have consistently voted for Democrats at rates that are nearly comparable with working class African-American neighborhoods or working class Latino neighborhoods.
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« Reply #54 on: November 19, 2014, 02:30:18 AM »

Its rather high for a protest vote that leaps such a large ideological hurdle. 
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« Reply #55 on: November 19, 2014, 11:54:44 AM »

Maine's interesting with presidential races.

It was 4.6 points more liberal than the rest of the nation in 2000.

It was 11.4 points more liberal in 2004. It was a state where Kerry outperformed Gore.

It was 10.2 points more liberal than the rest of the country in 2008.

It was 11.4 points more liberal in 2012, although Obama's margin was lower than the previous cycle.

This is a small sample set.

It's possible Maine voters are more elastic, or that the numbers are somehow skewed (perhaps there's more support for the military which helped Kerry and McCain a bit.)
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« Reply #56 on: November 19, 2014, 12:02:44 PM »

Of course not, but Mill Valley does not vote 90% Democrat. Us White Californians voted for Romney.

Phew! Good thing you whites are on your way out then.
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« Reply #57 on: November 19, 2014, 12:13:08 PM »

Of course, but nothing to the tune of 90% outside of the Castro or Haight. This area is full of granola eaters and latte drinkers- that embraced the counterculturist lifestyle and were unable to reside in a traditional American community.

San Francisco may have the most extreme counterculture but almost every major city has at least one or two wealthy white neighborhoods that vote at least 80% D and are full of crunchy granola types. My neighborhood just voted 93% D against Walker for instance.

CCSF, I think you could use getting out of San Francisco. I don't normally advise people to avoid areas with the opposite political ideology as them because I think we as a country could use a reminder that those on the opposite side are actual people to and that we should be able to have friends we disagree with. But in your case it just seems to make you frustrated and angry. While it's hard not be frustrated, bitterness never accomplishes anything or convinces anyone. You really should consider a change of scenery to a place you won't be in a constant struggle against. From what you've posted, it seems you have enough of a struggle going on inside yourself and could use less of one against other people. Maybe you can't get out of there for financial reasons or something, but if you can you should really consider it.
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