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« on: November 08, 2014, 10:31:44 PM »

I base this on rough guessing and nothing else but this is what 2016 seems to be to me


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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2014, 11:14:27 PM »

Flip Colorado and Virginia and I would agree
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2014, 11:16:00 PM »

All makes sense to me with the exception of Nevada. The governor's race there I don't think is a good litmus test, and I would say Colorado or Virginia would sooner go to the Republicans than Nevada would at this point. Plus switching Nevada puts this at 269-269 which is always fun
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2014, 11:32:18 PM »

Yea Nevada makes no sense.
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2014, 11:37:35 PM »
« Edited: November 08, 2014, 11:41:35 PM by Alabama Man! »

Wasn't there a lot of bad races in Nevada all over the place?

but here's 269-269

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2014, 12:06:37 AM »



IA/OH and CO/NH likely will not be the deciding state if it is close.
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2014, 12:29:43 AM »



IA/OH and CO/NH likely will not be the deciding state if it is close.

Though, I'd imagine if the Republicans win, they are due to win big. Maybe not as big as Reagan/Bush but maybe getting to the 350-375 level where they win every swing state plus maybe a couple of moderate liberal states.

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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2014, 12:46:16 AM »

Iowa starts out as no worse than toss-up. Using midterm waves to predict Presidential results is pointless.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2014, 12:46:24 AM »

The demographics of this country make a big GOP win tough unless the white vote is something like 65-34%. I think the Dem starts favored in CO, WI, VA, NV, NH while IA, FL are tossups. The NV governors race was uncontested and WI was against a governor the Dems stupidly emboldened with that recall. If Walker is the nominee then put WI as a pure tossup.
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2014, 12:51:53 AM »
« Edited: November 09, 2014, 12:56:04 AM by Mehmentum »


Grey states were battlegrounds in 2012 and will likely be battlegrounds again.  Light shades are states that could be competitive with the right candidates and environment.
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2014, 12:55:02 AM »

Iowa starts out as no worse than toss-up. Using midterm waves to predict Presidential results is pointless.

There's no correlation between Governor and Presidential results. I think Nate Silver did something on this awhile back.

I also wouldn't rule out Florida being right at the center as the tipping point rather than 3 points right of the country. There's really no more white voters the GOP can gain north of Orlando/Tampa, already maxed out. 2012 and 2014 had identical county maps but Obama got turnout in the cities than Crist did not. The 2016 electorate will be less white and Hillary can probably meet or exceed Obama with northern transplants, enough to carry the state.
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2014, 01:06:42 AM »


Grey states were battlegrounds in 2012 and will likely be battlegrounds again.  Light shades are states that could be competitive with the right candidates and environment.

This.
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2014, 03:34:54 AM »

I think Pennsylvania will be more of a battleground state than Virginia in 2016/ bold prediction.
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2014, 05:37:55 PM »

I don't know of any circumstances short of a Dem landslide where Indiana should be considered a potentially competitive state. 2008 was an extraordinary circumstance between the complete meltdown of the manufacturing industry and Obama's unusual draw among non-Democratic voters in the "old northwest." Indiana with a reasonably viable economy will vote solid R.
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2014, 12:41:04 AM »

I base this on rough guessing and nothing else but this is what 2016 seems to be to me




Flip Virginia and Nevada, and you have a fine Generic Midwestern R vs. Generic D map.
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