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« Reply #100 on: November 13, 2014, 11:09:27 PM »

Net neutrality is essentially a socialist internet. Say NO!

You have no clue what you're talking about. Go away.
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« Reply #101 on: November 13, 2014, 11:12:40 PM »

Net neutrality is essentially a socialist internet. Say NO!

You have no clue what you're talking about. Go away.

He's a troll.
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« Reply #102 on: November 13, 2014, 11:27:52 PM »

How come the greatest city in the world doesn't have fiber yet? Thanks De Blasio! Angry

I thought NYC had Fios? Thats diff?
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« Reply #103 on: November 14, 2014, 03:00:35 AM »
« Edited: November 14, 2014, 03:03:36 AM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

We the taxpayers paid the corrupt Big Telecom companies $200 billion, and they didn't give us sh**t. We first paid for the Internet when we gave them $200 billion of taxpayer money. We then paid for it again when we pay the high monthly fees that Comcast charges. Then they want companies like Netflix to pay for the Internet a 3rd time. Oh yeah, they have a 97% profit margin.

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2007/pulpit_20070810_002683.html
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« Reply #104 on: November 14, 2014, 04:25:19 AM »

The proper analogy for the internet isn't burgers or the Panama Canal. The proper analogy is to compare internet service providers with the power company. The former charges you to send ones and zeroes through their lines, the latter charges you for electricity sent through their lines. A kW/h is a kW/h regardless of what it's powering, just like a kbps is a kbps regardless of the transmission's content. Wouldn't it be ridiculous if power companies were allowed to charge you different rates to power your washing machine depending on its brand?

So you've never paid an electricity bill? The power companies charge different rates based upon demand relative to capacity, which is similar to what the ISPs are proposing.

In theory I would have no problem with an ISP charging variable rates for data usage based on their network load, assuming it was implemented evenly, fairly, and was well-regulated by the Federal government the way FERC does for electricity markets. But that's not what ISPs are doing- Comcast throttled Netflix to promote their own Xfinity service, for example. Net neutrality isn't about pricing, it's about preventing providers from forcing a content-based tiered internet on their users.
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« Reply #105 on: November 14, 2014, 04:53:43 AM »

The party that turned 'we built that' into a central theme for their 2012 campaign should be embracing net neutrality. The GOP should be for the millions of entrepreneurs and not just the handful of giant ISPs.

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« Reply #106 on: November 14, 2014, 10:29:11 AM »


This is not closely related to Net Neutrality regulations proposed by Congress. We've not had comprehensive net neutrality regulations and that's why net neutrality is a thing now.

Content providers are no longer the same as ISPs. Why is this reason for new regulation? Because Verizon is no longer interested in building a network for Netflix?

You don't know what you're talking about and that makes two of us, so...

I'm not a programmer, but I'm savvy enough to know that common formatting decisions from the early days of the internet are not closely related to our current discussion about capacity distribution.
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« Reply #107 on: November 14, 2014, 11:32:22 AM »


This is not closely related to Net Neutrality regulations proposed by Congress. We've not had comprehensive net neutrality regulations and that's why net neutrality is a thing now.

Content providers are no longer the same as ISPs. Why is this reason for new regulation? Because Verizon is no longer interested in building a network for Netflix?

You don't know what you're talking about and that makes two of us, so...

I'm not a programmer, but I'm savvy enough to know that common formatting decisions from the early days of the internet are not closely related to our current discussion about capacity distribution.

Net neutrality has a basis in the basic programming principles of the internet.  That's what the creators of the internet have said. 
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« Reply #108 on: November 14, 2014, 12:43:13 PM »

Net Neutrality was the standard quo for the Internet until sometime around January 2014. It's not a "new thing." Getting rid of it -- that's the new thing.

You people who think the cable industry needs less regulation are nuts. It's a damned monopoly system.
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« Reply #109 on: November 15, 2014, 06:25:50 PM »

Net Neutrality was the standard quo for the Internet until sometime around January 2014. It's not a "new thing." Getting rid of it -- that's the new thing.

You people who think the cable industry needs less regulation are nuts. It's a damned monopoly system.

Reality check!  Comcast operates to deliver the best services possible to its customers and should be in charge of its own regulation.  Wink
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« Reply #110 on: November 15, 2014, 06:33:57 PM »

Net Neutrality was the standard quo for the Internet until sometime around January 2014. It's not a "new thing." Getting rid of it -- that's the new thing.

You people who think the cable industry needs less regulation are nuts. It's a damned monopoly system.

Reality check!  Comcast operates to deliver the best services possible to its customers and should be in charge of its own regulation.  Wink
Cliff notes from my call from Comcast today.

Comcast rep: Let's do some troubleshooting since our tech didn't fix your issue.

Me: I've done that a million times in my many calls since these problems popped up in August.

Comcast rep: Okay, well when would be a good time to call to troubleshoot?

/facepalm
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