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Question: Are you greatly bothered by the Dachau massacre?
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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2010, 06:58:03 PM »

The guards were enforcers. They are just fortunate that they weren't incinerated alive in the crematoria.

After several months or years of seeing no justice, it is not surprising that inmates turned on guilty guards. Inmates knew who the worst of the worst were. Anyone in the employ of the camp system should have surrendered to the Allied armies to whom they had committed no crimes.   
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« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2010, 07:32:11 PM »


They were human beings who were victims of their society and government just as much so as the prisoners they watched over.
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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2010, 07:57:33 PM »


They were human beings who were victims of their society and government just as much so as the prisoners they watched over.

That's a disgusting thing to say.
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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2010, 08:26:51 PM »


They were human beings who were victims of their society and government just as much so as the prisoners they watched over.

That's a disgusting thing to say.

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Anyways, I can't say I don't relate to the soldiers (or that I wouldn't have participated).  They walked into that camp seeing bodies strewn like garbage, bodies stuffed in rail cars...The men who committed those crimes did not deserve to live.

They saved them a long trial at Nuremberg.
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« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2010, 10:25:37 PM »


They were human beings who were victims of their society and government just as much so as the prisoners they watched over.

That's a disgusting thing to say.

No it's not. The idea that I was addressing is what's disgusting.
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« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2010, 12:13:59 AM »


They were human beings who were victims of their society and government just as much so as the prisoners they watched over.

That's a disgusting thing to say.

     While there is something to what Libertas says (war victimizes the non-politicians on all sides), I do find it rather disturbing to suggest the guards were as much victims as the prisoners. Whether that is more disturbing than the suggestion that nobody should care about the killing of another human being because of that person's affiliations, I don't know.
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« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2010, 12:42:00 AM »


They were human beings who were victims of their society and government just as much so as the prisoners they watched over.

That's a disgusting thing to say.

     While there is something to what Libertas says (war victimizes the non-politicians on all sides), I do find it rather disturbing to suggest the guards were as much victims as the prisoners. Whether that is more disturbing than the suggestion that nobody should care about the killing of another human being because of that person's affiliations, I don't know.

Consider what the nazis did to complete innocents. This was simply justice in the fast forward method. Was it slightly unethical? Perhaps. Was it unjustifiable? Hell no. War is hell and for all the much more horrific crimes that were committed by the Nazis and Japanese what the US soldiers did was mild in comparison.
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« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2010, 12:48:28 AM »


They were human beings who were victims of their society and government just as much so as the prisoners they watched over.

That's a disgusting thing to say.

     While there is something to what Libertas says (war victimizes the non-politicians on all sides), I do find it rather disturbing to suggest the guards were as much victims as the prisoners. Whether that is more disturbing than the suggestion that nobody should care about the killing of another human being because of that person's affiliations, I don't know.

Consider what the nazis did to complete innocents. This was simply justice in the fast forward method. Was it slightly unethical? Perhaps. Was it unjustifiable? Hell no. War is hell and for all the much more horrific crimes that were committed by the Nazis and Japanese what the US soldiers did was mild in comparison.

     I don't consider revenge to be justice, though I suppose we ought to agree to disagree.
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« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2010, 03:17:12 AM »


They were human beings who were victims of their society and government just as much so as the prisoners they watched over.

That's a disgusting thing to say.

     While there is something to what Libertas says (war victimizes the non-politicians on all sides), I do find it rather disturbing to suggest the guards were as much victims as the prisoners. Whether that is more disturbing than the suggestion that nobody should care about the killing of another human being because of that person's affiliations, I don't know.

Consider what the nazis did to complete innocents. This was simply justice in the fast forward method. Was it slightly unethical? Perhaps. Was it unjustifiable? Hell no. War is hell and for all the much more horrific crimes that were committed by the Nazis and Japanese what the US soldiers did was mild in comparison.

Dehumanizing entire groups of people based on the actions of some is what enabled the Nazi programme in the first place.
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« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2010, 03:49:19 PM »


They were human beings who were victims of their society and government just as much so as the prisoners they watched over.

That's a disgusting thing to say.

     While there is something to what Libertas says (war victimizes the non-politicians on all sides), I do find it rather disturbing to suggest the guards were as much victims as the prisoners. Whether that is more disturbing than the suggestion that nobody should care about the killing of another human being because of that person's affiliations, I don't know.

Consider what the nazis did to complete innocents. This was simply justice in the fast forward method. Was it slightly unethical? Perhaps. Was it unjustifiable? Hell no. War is hell and for all the much more horrific crimes that were committed by the Nazis and Japanese what the US soldiers did was mild in comparison.

Dehumanizing entire groups of people based on the actions of some is what enabled the Nazi programme in the first place.

Eh, no. There was no Jewish conspiracy to blame the Jews for in the first place, you see.
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« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2014, 07:27:00 PM »

No
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« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2014, 08:48:12 PM »

Slightly, but it ain't gonna keep me up at night if you get my drift.
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« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2014, 09:04:00 PM »

Why did you bump this thread, Mung Beans?
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« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2014, 09:51:09 PM »

Violence is wrong. Funny to see the leftists embrace it all the time.
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« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2014, 11:24:59 PM »

Revenge for war crimes is not an excuse to commit further war crimes.
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« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2014, 11:32:00 PM »

I mean "greatly bothered" is hyperbole, but I would have preferred them to be tried judicially. It certainly isn't the worst war crime of the Allies though - I can fully understand the motive of the Allied soldiers, especially after what they had discovered.
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« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2014, 12:23:00 PM »

To show the western nations are civil, unlike the Nazis who were barbaric and murderous thugs, what should have happened is for all the SS personnel at this camp to be arrested, held for trial, tried, with witnesses called, and, if found guilty of any crime,  to be punished accordingly, likely hanged by the neck until dead, or firing squad.
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« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2014, 09:56:54 PM »

I voted yes.  It's not the worst thing that United States soldiers have done, but it was ugly.  Still, I have never been in a war.  I have never felt the disorder of post-traumatic stress.  I have never stumbled upon a field strewn with human remains.  I try not to judge the soldiers too harshly.  I do think that we ought never to forget, however, that our military commanders should be adequately trained and prepared, and especially vetted, for the terror that they might encounter, lest they repeat those terrors.
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« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2014, 02:21:16 PM »

Not at all. The enemies of the people were liquidated. Revenge killing is sometimes a good thing. Real life isn't a elementary school classroom.
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« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2014, 02:47:24 PM »

The only good fascist is a dead fascist, so no.
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« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2014, 08:40:03 PM »

Not at all. The enemies of the people were liquidated. Revenge killing is sometimes a good thing. Real life isn't a elementary school classroom.
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« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2014, 03:17:08 PM »

This was technical wrong and a war crime, but do I lose sleep over it, not really. There are a lot of thing in world war to lose sleep over, including things done against Germans and Italians by the western allies, but vigilante murders against mass murders, I doubt that's in the top million things done in WWII I could  be bothered over.
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« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2014, 09:50:12 AM »

It's so easy to judge from safe historical distance. Honestly, after seeing the horrors of the Nazi camps on my own eyes, I don't know how I would react back then.
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