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« Reply #200 on: April 11, 2015, 03:18:01 PM »

Just how articulate and smart is Duckworth? How well informed is she on the issues? That really needs to be factored into any analysis.

The race to compare is the 2006 battle for IL-6. It was an open seat due to the retirement of Henry Hyde. The district had been drifting Dem, especially the northern half, and today it makes up the majority of Duckworth's IL-8.


The race pitted Duckworth against Roskam and the media attention on Duckworth's compelling life story made it the top race in the US that year and the particular focus of the DCCC under Rahm Emanuel. Despite the media attention, money and Dem wave, Roskam won a close contest 51% to 49%. Roskam's superior campaign skills compared to Duckworth were a key factor in the race.

OK, the old IL-06 had a Dem PVI in 2008 of 3%, and Duckworth ran 4 points behind the PVI. That's not enough to close the gap, particularly since Obama probably ran about 4 points or so ahead of the partisan baseline in that area of Illinois due to his favorite son status (maybe offset some by the 2006 Dem wave). So putting aside whatever incumbency advantage Kirk has, he's in trouble based on that indicator. Have Duckworth's skills in you judgment as a politician improved since then, or not?

The IL state PVI is listed as D+8, but most think that is overpriced due to its reliance on the 2008 and 2012 results, both of which featured favorite son Obama at the top of the ticket. The actual PVI could be three points less. So let's assume the state as a whole is D+5.

Incumbency is worth a few points, and three is not a bad estimate, so give that to Kirk. Duckworth doesn't seem to have changed much as a candidate since '06. If she again runs 4 points behind her PVI and Kirk gets 3 points for incumbency then the race starts at R+2. Hillary would need to win nationally by 2 points or more to have enough coattails to carry Duckworth.

You double counted there. If the state PVI is inflated by 3 points, that includes Duckwork's CD (I suspect the PVI was more inflated there because the favorite son boost was more pronounced in the collar counties, but whatever), so its PVI was really even in 2006, and she ran one point behind. So you have a Dem PVI for the state of 5 points, less 3 points for incumbency, less one point for Duckworth, leaving her ahead by one point, if Hillary runs even with the PVI.

I think I misunderstood your reference to the old IL-6. When you said it had a 2008 PVI of D+3, I took that to mean an actual PVI going into the 2008 election. If so, it would not include Obama's win. I now take it that you are referring to Obama's win in IL-06 in 2008. I should have recognized that old IL-6 was about 2 points more Pub than the US in 2004 when I made my statement and there was a D+3 tide in 2006 (53-47 Dem share of the two party vote). That would suggest that Duckworth ran about 2 points behind the national average. Tongue

If the old IL-06 after factoring out the Obama favorite son effect was an even PVI, but the Dem tide in 2006 added three points, than Duckworth ran four points behind the national Dem tide in her district in 2006 (assuming no real inherent PVI change in the CD between 2006 and 2008). Tongue
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« Reply #201 on: April 18, 2015, 10:11:59 PM »

Q1 2015: Kirk raises ~$1 Million, Duckworth only about ~$522,000.


http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150415/news/150419178/

So far, so much for Kirk being doomed. Smiley
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« Reply #202 on: April 18, 2015, 10:14:30 PM »

Tammy Duckworth announced her candidacy on the 2nd to last day of Q1. Obviously she was soliciting some donations in the time preceding that, but give her some set-up time before comparing!! Sure, it will help Kirk in the long-run to start off with an advantage, but there's a ton of time for catch-up, especially since no one knows for sure if there will be a serious D primary.
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« Reply #203 on: April 18, 2015, 10:19:25 PM »
« Edited: April 18, 2015, 10:26:52 PM by OC »

Quinn was relatively outspent real early and he fought the race to almost a draw. Dems are on the Chicago media all the time. I think Duckworth will stay competetive. As long as Bill Foster is staving off media attacks from the GOP, and he is appearing to do that, by her side.
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« Reply #204 on: April 20, 2015, 12:13:50 PM »

Q1 2015: Kirk raises ~$1 Million, Duckworth only about ~$522,000.


http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150415/news/150419178/

So far, so much for Kirk being doomed. Smiley
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« Reply #205 on: April 20, 2015, 01:44:23 PM »

Q1 2015: Kirk raises ~$1 Million, Duckworth only about ~$522,000.


http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150415/news/150419178/

So far, so much for Kirk being doomed. Smiley

I refer you to Linda McMahon
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« Reply #206 on: April 20, 2015, 01:49:05 PM »

Q1 2015: Kirk raises ~$1 Million, Duckworth only about ~$522,000.


http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150415/news/150419178/

So far, so much for Kirk being doomed. Smiley

I refer you to Linda McMahon

And Meg Whitman.
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« Reply #207 on: April 20, 2015, 01:49:28 PM »

Q1 2015: Kirk raises ~$1 Million, Duckworth only about ~$522,000.


http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150415/news/150419178/

So far, so much for Kirk being doomed. Smiley


Well the thing is Blanche would've been lucky to be within margin of the error (Which Mark Kirk has been in the opinion poll that has been taken).
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« Reply #208 on: April 24, 2015, 02:01:51 PM »

Ex-NFL LB and current State Sen. Napoleon Harris (D-Flossmoor) keeping options open

http://atr.rollcall.com/ex-nfl-linebacker-considering-illinois-senate-bid/

Bill Daley, African-American leaders urging Urban League President Andrea Zopp (D-Chicago) to run

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/486504/sneed-urban-league-ceo-andrea-zopp-urged-run-kirks-seat
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« Reply #209 on: April 24, 2015, 03:20:49 PM »

Harris or Zopp will be my preferred choice over Duckworth.
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« Reply #210 on: April 24, 2015, 04:48:08 PM »

Harris or Zopp will be my preferred choice over Duckworth.

They are weaker against Kirk and would cost primary money.

I would vote for Duckworth regardless.
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« Reply #211 on: April 24, 2015, 04:54:00 PM »

Harris or Zopp will be my preferred choice over Duckworth.
Endorsing Duckworth.
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« Reply #212 on: April 25, 2015, 03:59:15 PM »

Zopp or Harris will energize the black vote; that was missing from the Ginnoulias camp; last time around.
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« Reply #213 on: April 26, 2015, 04:52:43 AM »

Zopp is basically a black female Alexi Giannoulias.
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« Reply #214 on: April 26, 2015, 07:16:03 AM »

Bill Daley is endorsing Zopp which I am endorsing because he is running for Gov in 2018; and he is still mad over IL Dems for endorsing Quinn; a weak inc over him in primary. Want his candidate to win in 2016.
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« Reply #215 on: April 26, 2015, 08:01:07 AM »

Q1 2015: Kirk raises ~$1 Million, Duckworth only about ~$522,000.


http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150415/news/150419178/

So far, so much for Kirk being doomed. Smiley


Well the thing is Blanche would've been lucky to be within margin of the error (Which Mark Kirk has been in the opinion poll that has been taken).

we'll have to wait a year or so to get an accurate comparison on that Tongue
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« Reply #216 on: May 14, 2015, 09:01:52 PM »

Zopp is in and will announce soon.
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« Reply #217 on: May 15, 2015, 12:13:55 AM »

Endorsed.
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« Reply #218 on: May 18, 2015, 12:16:38 PM »

Why anyone would support a member of the CPS board at this point is beyond me

Duckworth is endorsed early on
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« Reply #219 on: May 18, 2015, 06:36:47 PM »
« Edited: May 18, 2015, 06:45:27 PM by OC »

Why anyone would support a member of the CPS board at this point is beyond me

Duckworth is endorsed early on

We need black candidates; I am not backing away from my support, but will endorse Duckworth if she is nominee.

I fully support Edwards of MD, too. She isnt only on the school board she is part of the Urban League, jobs for at risk  youth. Duckworth only beat tea partier Walsh. She is prone to errors and mistakes. But let the primary season begin. It wont hurt.

Lisa Madigan didnt run so we have a primary.
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« Reply #220 on: May 22, 2015, 04:06:34 PM »

I thought all the nukes were dismantled in 1989.
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« Reply #221 on: May 30, 2015, 09:55:21 AM »

Roll Call: Tilt D

http://blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/mark-kirk-race-rating-illinois-senate/?dcz
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« Reply #222 on: May 30, 2015, 12:13:39 PM »


LOL at Johnson being less vulnerable than Kirk in their ratings.
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« Reply #223 on: May 30, 2015, 01:40:12 PM »


True, but even so, Tilt D seems quite generous to Kirk.
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« Reply #224 on: May 30, 2015, 03:38:09 PM »

It's a nice analysis on the environment, but I think I'll have it as a Toss up until a poll comes out.
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