After state takeover, NV GOP already writing bills to disenfranchise minorities
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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2014, 10:07:15 PM »

The Rethuglicans strike again.
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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2014, 10:12:01 PM »

Requiring photo ID to vote being referred to as "disenfranchising minorities" is such a joke.

LOL yep! It must just be a coincidence that young voters and minorities are less likely to have acceptable forms of ID.
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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2014, 10:14:10 PM »

Fantastic news! Nevada will now be like nearly every other first-world nation.

Elections have consequences =)
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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2014, 10:16:16 PM »

I'm all for photo ID laws. Just issue a free photo ID to everyone in the state.
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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2014, 10:34:06 PM »


Sort of off-topic, but wow, have Republicans really never had the trifecta since then? I thought NV was a fairly Republican state for most of the 20th century.
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« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2014, 10:56:35 PM »

What a shocker, I actually thought Republicans would rule fairly.


Lol jk Republicans are scum
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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2014, 12:36:19 AM »

Requiring photo ID to vote being referred to as "disenfranchising minorities" is such a joke.

LOL yep! It must just be a coincidence that young voters and minorities are less likely to have acceptable forms of ID.

Then in the process of providing them for free to avoid run a fowl of the VRA, those people will thus be that much better off for having one. You cannot do crap without one, and instead of whinning about people not having the ids, just give them the damn IDs as a necessity of functioning in the 21st century. They will be ironically, economically better off.
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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2014, 12:37:45 AM »

You would have thought the Democrats would have moved to ensure the poor and minorities were already given them for free. Tongue
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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2014, 12:41:53 AM »

Place free state ID stations at polls.
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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2014, 01:40:22 AM »

The problem isn't the ID laws, the problem is the GOP always tries to sneak these in right before an election. If you want a national ID law, there should be a long transition period to allow everyone to obtain one.

Wouldn't tying this in with the census solve everything?
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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2014, 01:41:13 AM »


Just like Texas and South Carolina did.
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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2014, 01:55:39 AM »

They're certainly justified in moving to protect the integrity of our elections.  During the 2012 election alone, we saw as many as one case of electoral fraud.  From a Republican voter.
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« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2014, 07:43:56 AM »
« Edited: November 13, 2014, 08:00:30 AM by CrabCake »

Requiring photo ID to vote being referred to as "disenfranchising minorities" is such a joke.

Indeed. Imagine what the other first-world countries would say that have done it for years. Even the UN Observers in 2012 laughed hysterically at the fact that we don't require ID.  The left needs to victimize though, so expect the race-baiting to continue.  In the meantime, hopefully our side will be relentless in protecting integrity of ballot box

a) The UK doesn't have voter ID (unless I've been doing it wrong) and neither does Australia, Japan, New Zealand, Switzerland, Denmark and probably others.

b) Many countries which do have national identity cards anyway (Spain, Germany, France, Italy, Belgium), so disenfranchising voters is a moot point.

c) Other ways to prevent hypothetical voter fraud exist include Indelible Ink (I'm a big fan of election ink, it makes elections seem like a high-end party)

d) Or Social Security cards could have be reissued as photo ID?
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« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2014, 09:59:58 AM »



d) Or Social Security cards could have be reissued as photo ID?

My Social Security card is 40 years old, so it would show me thin, whisker-free, and with the sort of hair that women would kill for.  I'm not sure that I would like to be 16 again -- maybe 24.

Of course, if I were 24 I might also want to be in some country in which an American ID is useless.
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« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2014, 10:27:25 AM »

If Republicans didn't think this would impact elections, they wouldn't bother passing these laws.
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« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2014, 04:47:46 PM »

The problem isn't the ID laws, the problem is the GOP always tries to sneak these in right before an election. If you want a national ID law, there should be a long transition period to allow everyone to obtain one.

Wouldn't tying this in with the census solve everything?

In the real world, Scott Walker signed photo voter ID into law in May 2011. It's now November 2014.  One would have to be quite lazy in order to not have acquired a requisite ID in 3 and a half years.

Not that it mattered in the end. There was no voter ID in Wisconsin in 2014, and the lazy whiners lost anyway.
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« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2014, 05:10:39 PM »

Am I of flawed thinking that people who lack IDs largely are not ones who vote?
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« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2014, 07:45:28 PM »

I'm all for photo ID laws. Just issue a free photo ID to everyone in the state.

This is perfectly acceptable and should be encouraged.  Protects the integrity of all legal voters while taking steps to make sure no legitimate voters are disenfranchised.  And, if ID is not available on Election Day, they are also able to vote provisionally and show ID later on post-election night
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