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« on: November 12, 2014, 08:36:32 PM »

http://nypost.com/2014/11/10/cuomo-had-a-secret-re-election-pact-with-republicans/

basically, the idea is that Cuomo agreed to stay out of the LI Senate races if Senate GOP leader Dean Skelos agreed to do little/nothing to aid Astorino's gubernatorial bid.  (Republican) Nassau County exec Ed Mangano soon got on board and took the bold move of endorsing Cuomo.

this has special significance because 1) the GOP has long dominated the Senate seats on Long Island, more than they "should" (the Nassau GOP machine lost its stranglehold on county gov't in 1999 for example), and 2) a large part of the deal cut between Cuomo and the Working Families party came with the promise from Cuomo to put some muscle into trying to pickup the few senate seats needed to wrest control from the GOP-"Independent Democratic" caucus, and 3) the long GOP-held Senate is the only mechanism of state government that Democrats don't control.


you can draw your own conclusions from there.
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2014, 08:38:05 PM »

Perfectly reasonable given the state and the person
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2014, 08:55:16 PM »

Cuomo should probably just switch parties.
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2014, 09:06:44 PM »

http://nypost.com/2014/11/10/cuomo-had-a-secret-re-election-pact-with-republicans/

basically, the idea is that Cuomo agreed to stay out of the LI Senate races if Senate GOP leader Dean Skelos agreed to do little/nothing to aid Astorino's gubernatorial bid.  (Republican) Nassau County exec Ed Mangano soon got on board and took the bold move of endorsing Cuomo.

this has special significance because 1) the GOP has long dominated the Senate seats on Long Island, more than they "should" (the Nassau GOP machine lost its stranglehold on county gov't in 1999 for example), and 2) a large part of the deal cut between Cuomo and the Working Families party came with the promise from Cuomo to put some muscle into trying to pickup the few senate seats needed to wrest control from the GOP-"Independent Democratic" caucus, and 3) the long GOP-held Senate is the only mechanism of state government that Democrats don't control.


you can draw your own conclusions from there.

Slimy Cuomo wants the Republicans in charge of the State Senate. He can use it as an excuse to keep "Progressive" Mayor Wilhem's agenda  in check in New York City.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2014, 09:26:14 PM »

If any Republican governor pulled the stuff Cuomo has pulled on his own party, he'd be chased out of the caucus and would be the least likely contender for a Presidential nomination.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2014, 09:39:37 PM »

Ehh not sure I buy this one.  Seems like Astronino's camp is reaching on why this far right nutcase lost.  Also, there wasn't really any competitive state Senate races on Long Island once the allegations against Denenberg came to light.
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2014, 09:40:54 PM »

If any Republican governor pulled the stuff Cuomo has pulled on his own party, he'd be chased out of the caucus and would be the least likely contender for a Presidential nomination.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2014, 09:43:29 PM »


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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2014, 09:54:06 PM »


Luftwaffe Wilhem!
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2014, 10:00:55 PM »

I can't believe this guy was considered the favourite for the nomination before Hillary looked interested in running for President.
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2014, 10:05:46 PM »


Slimy Cuomo wants the Republicans in charge of the State Senate. He can use it as an excuse to keep "Progressive" Mayor Wilhem's agenda  in check in New York City.

I agree with the first conclusion, though the second part is only a partial answer, pointing to the larger answer: a Dem-controlled Senate would disperse power more evenly throughout the party, and NY progressives in general.  expectations would get ratcheted up, forcing Cuomo to do things he doesn't want to do (indefinite statutory ban on fracking, raise minimum wage, etc.)

he'd still have Silver around to stonewall things, but it would look VERY bad on the major issues -- if Silver refused to bring a $12.50 min wage to the floor, for instance.  with power more evenly dispersed throughout the party, a figure could emerge to take advantage of the not insignificant yet poorly organized 'progressive left'... so it's either piss off the $$$ men who will fund his future presidential campaign, or lose whole thing altogether.
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2014, 11:41:56 PM »

Cuomo should probably just switch parties.

Well, no because I can't see the Republicans willingly taking him.
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2014, 12:19:42 AM »

Cuomo should probably just switch parties.
We won't take him, we can smell when something's a rat.
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2014, 01:24:45 AM »

Cuomo should probably just switch parties.

Well, no because I can't see the Republicans willingly taking him.

Cuomo should probably just switch parties.

We won't take him, we can smell when something's a rat.


National Republicans would never take him, but the NY GOP certainly would.
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2014, 01:25:51 AM »

lol Cuomo.

That's the only response I can think of anymore for this guy.
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2014, 01:43:14 AM »

"I've got a secret that I cannot explain
Always knew it would never get out
There are things that I cannot tell
and there are things that you know damn well.
This is getting very hard for me,
guess I better just wait and see.
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2014, 01:45:15 AM »

What a brilliant plan! If not for that then he wouldn't have steamrolled his no-name opponent with the whopping 54-41.
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2014, 03:13:18 AM »

What a brilliant plan! If not for that then he wouldn't have steamrolled his no-name opponent with the whopping 54-41.

Yeah, the joke margin of victory is what makes the story especially incredulous.  If it's true, then clearly Democrats do better in New York without help from Long Island Republicans. Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2014, 04:05:01 AM »

Cuomo is at the very top of a very long list of "Democrats" who need to be primaried.
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2014, 11:19:21 AM »

Cuomo is at the very top of a very long list of "Democrats" who need to be primaried.

Too bad he won't get a more credible Democrat to do so.
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2014, 12:32:42 PM »

Cuomo is at the very top of a very long list of "Democrats" who need to be primaried.

Too bad he won't get a more credible Democrat to do so.

After last week's miserable performance, I think someone will do in four years.
Possibly Schneidermann who got more votes than Cuomo and hasn't forgotten that he tried to sabotage his candidacy for AG back in 2010.
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2014, 02:51:36 PM »

Cuomo should probably just switch parties.

Too bitchy with guns to be welcome
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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2014, 04:10:39 PM »

It's amazing what's happened to him considering his father's views.
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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2014, 04:36:03 PM »

The most surprising thing about this is that they were dumb enough to make a pact given that almost everyone who paid attention already assumed this was going on.
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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2014, 04:36:41 PM »

No that I have any particular like for Cuomo, but why should we believe a report from the NY Post?
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