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« on: November 12, 2014, 08:50:12 PM »

Suddenly the margin was cut in half over the past day. I'm guessing that's based upon absentee votes, etc.  That ended up being very, very tight and Gov. Hickenlooper broke open his race from one point to three points with the late count. 

My thing is, that was almost a blown call by the networks and you don't usually see this much of a dramatic movement with the final count. 

In the end, the CO GOP finally got one right at the top of the ticket, but the final margin is a bit surprising. Then again, I was thinking Udall may survive given the CO GOP's problems the past decade.
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2014, 09:03:54 PM »

Alas, not enough to counter the misogyny of Colorado voters.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2014, 09:07:36 PM »

What site has the most current result/margin?
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2014, 09:08:19 PM »

IIRC the margin went down from 3 or 4 to 2, not like it went into recount territory or something.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2014, 09:08:41 PM »

Its still a 2.5% margin, 48.5-46.0 according to all sources.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2014, 09:09:43 PM »

What site has the most current result/margin?

CO SOS with 100% reporting has 48.32-46.16 Gardner, or roughly 44k margin.
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2014, 09:15:12 PM »

What site has the most current result/margin?


The site you're on (or the Colorado SOS)


Its still a 2.5% margin, 48.5-46.0 according to all sources.

No, they haven't updated. Check the Colorado SOS or Dave Leip's data on this site for the most recent results. It went down to about a 2.1% lead.

One one hand, it's impressive that Mark Udall came pretty close despite running a poor campaign, Gardner running a perfect campaign, the environment being terrible and the media being very biased in Gardner's favor.

On the other hand, Udall still lost so a loss is a loss and a big name in Colorado politics did go down in flames. It's also embarrassing Udall won the suburbs and still lost. But candidates like Cory Gardner are few and far between so let's see how the GOP does against Michael Bennett in 2016.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2014, 09:22:23 PM »

Guys, guys...he still lost. Goodnight. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2014, 09:32:27 PM »

What site has the most current result/margin?


The site you're on (or the Colorado SOS)


Its still a 2.5% margin, 48.5-46.0 according to all sources.

No, they haven't updated. Check the Colorado SOS or Dave Leip's data on this site for the most recent results. It went down to about a 2.1% lead.

One one hand, it's impressive that Mark Udall came pretty close despite running a poor campaign, Gardner running a perfect campaign, the environment being terrible and the media being very biased in Gardner's favor.

On the other hand, Udall still lost so a loss is a loss and a big name in Colorado politics did go down in flames. It's also embarrassing Udall won the suburbs and still lost. But candidates like Cory Gardner are few and far between so let's see how the GOP does against Michael Bennett in 2016.

Yeah, the COGOP certainly has no other candidate of Gardner's caliber waiting in the wings. And the fact that Udall lost by "only" 2 points in a perfect storm against him bodes well for Bennet.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2014, 09:39:43 PM »

I'm glad Gardner won, but wouldn't it be funny if he lost in the very end?
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2014, 09:44:32 PM »

I think this shows the Republicans are probably wasting their time if they plan on campaigning in Colorado during the next presidential election. I know we won, but it took what is generally considered the best campaign of the cycle to barely eke out a win against a moonbat in the middle of a Republican wave. I'm glad to have the seat but it's certainly not much of a sign of good things to come.
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2014, 09:56:25 PM »

Denial is the first stage of Grief, true. Y'all lost in Colorado.
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2014, 09:58:32 PM »

^ Except no one is denying Gardner won.
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2014, 10:01:12 PM »

^ Except no one is denying Gardner won.

This is a thread celebrating Gardner's margin declining by 0.4% and trying to spin Gardner's victory as somehow positive news for Colorado Democrats. No one is denying Gardner won, but there are some who are trying to deny that Democrats lost.
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2014, 10:03:04 PM »

Is Vosem talking about some other thread I didn't read or...?
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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2014, 10:06:19 PM »

Is Vosem talking about some other thread I didn't read or...?

Not sure. Yes, Democrats can understandably discount Gardner's win, but I don't see any claiming that he lost...
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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2014, 10:07:18 PM »

Y'all were popping bottles when Brown was leading, even though the three bluest cities in NH and Shaheen's hometown were still out...

But hey, that's none of my business, is it?
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2014, 10:07:50 PM »

Is Vosem talking about some other thread I didn't read or...?

Not sure. Yes, Democrats can understandably discount Gardner's win, but I don't see any claiming that he lost...

Neither do I. The point is, in fact, the discounting and trying to act as though he lost.
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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2014, 10:09:35 PM »

Gardner did exactly as well as people thought he was going to do. PPP had it a 3 point race, Denver post had it a 2 point race, and the last Quinniapc poll had it 2. In the end, gardner won by 2.

By the way, Mexican turnout was the same as it was in 2012.
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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2014, 10:14:57 PM »

Is Vosem talking about some other thread I didn't read or...?

Not sure. Yes, Democrats can understandably discount Gardner's win, but I don't see any claiming that he lost...

Neither do I. The point is, in fact, the discounting and trying to act as though he lost.

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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2014, 11:35:44 PM »

What was overall turnout in CO? I assume it was above the national average because of mail in voting and the competative Senate statewide races?
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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2014, 11:39:45 PM »

I think this shows the Republicans are probably wasting their time if they plan on campaigning in Colorado during the next presidential election. I know we won, but it took what is generally considered the best campaign of the cycle to barely eke out a win against a moonbat in the middle of a Republican wave. I'm glad to have the seat but it's certainly not much of a sign of good things to come.

Spoken like a true trans-midwestern stater who would like to see the GOP focus all its attention on his region. Tongue

Udall is an established brand in the SW and he was still an incumbent as well, and consider that 2014 was the best performance in terms of Republicans defeating Democratic incumbents since 1980. Colorado isn ot going to be an easy state for any party, but there is a strong enough GOP presence with Douglas, El Paso, Weld and Mesa counties to ensure that the GOP is getting into the mid-40's. Nevada is still a harder nut to crack then CO in Presidential election years by far at thatis point.
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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2014, 11:41:24 PM »

What was overall turnout in CO? I assume it was above the national average because of mail in voting and the competative Senate statewide races?

The SOS site says 56%, which is a bit lower than I expected. Still way over the national rate though.
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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2014, 11:44:26 PM »

I think this shows the Republicans are probably wasting their time if they plan on campaigning in Colorado during the next presidential election.
Okay, let's clear something up here. CO is not a blue state. Purple-blue like PA, perhaps, but not pure blue. If it was a blue state, Democrats would be able to win without campaigning. We're nowhere near that point.

Also, the CO polls finally got something right! RCP had this at Gardner +2.5, just 0.4% off the actual margin. The Gubernatorial race featured the usual republican poll bias though.
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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2014, 11:46:20 PM »

I think this shows the Republicans are probably wasting their time if they plan on campaigning in Colorado during the next presidential election.

If it was a blue state, Democrats would be able to win without campaigning. We're nowhere near that point.

So they should be pretty well positioned for VA Wink
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