Obama to announce executive order on immigration

[Brittain33]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2014/11/13/obama-plans-protect-millions-from-deportation-issue-work-permits/kY9k4UAs2WtbmZdrTabB4K/story.html

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[I Will Not Be Wrong]

Finally.

[Cory]

Wonderful! I can't wait!

[Gass3268]

Excellent!

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

There's a catch. The Deporter-in-Chief wants to do enough to prevent Latino voters from staying home or voting third party in 2016 but not enough to actually help them.

[Mehmentum]

CO2 deals with China, supporting net neutrality, immigration reform... Obama's really saved all of the important policy achievements until after the election.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

CO2 deals with China, supporting net neutrality, immigration reform... Obama's really saved all of the important policy achievements until after the election.

I don't know whether to be happy about the things being done or angry he waited until after the election

[KCDem]

There's a catch. The Deporter-in-Chief wants to do enough to prevent Latino voters from staying home or voting third party in 2016 but not enough to actually help them.

Glorious news! They don't get to break the law for free!

[Lief 🗽]

KCDem is right, as is increasingly becoming the case. If they want to stay here legally, then they're gonna have to pay. Luckily, they can pay in votes, which are free and you get a sticker after, so it's actually not that bad.

[Ban my account ffs!]

They shouldnt be illegal.

[IceSpear]

Is it just me, or is Obama getting a lot better now that he knows he has nothing to lose?

[IceSpear]

There's a catch. The Deporter-in-Chief wants to do enough to prevent Latino voters from staying home or voting third party in 2016 but not enough to actually help them.

Yes, the "Deporter-in-Chief" absolutely needs those Latinos for his 2016 re-election bid.

I know it's impossible for True Leftists to ever give Obama credit for anything, but come on.

[Brittain33]

Is it just me, or is Obama getting a lot better now that he knows he has nothing to lose?

He's fired up, ready to go.

[Flake]

President Obama is wonderful!

[JerryArkansas]

I'm happy he is doing it, but he just ruined anything else happening you might like in his presidency, a fact you all know but won't admit. 

[IceSpear]

I'm happy he is doing it, but he just ruined anything else happening you might like in his presidency, a fact you all know but won't admit. 

That assumes McConnell and Boehner would actually let Obama have any accomplishments. What did he get in return for reaching across the aisle in 2009-2010 again?

[JerryArkansas]

I'm happy he is doing it, but he just ruined anything else happening you might like in his presidency, a fact you all know but won't admit. 

That assumes McConnell and Boehner would actually let Obama have any accomplishments. What did he get in return for reaching across the aisle in 2009-2010 again?

It's not them who you need to worry about, it's the one's who wouldn't have voted with those two.  Both are going to face big defections from both the right and left, and Obama could have capitalized on it, if he didn't do this.  Now he is just too toxic for rep's to touch him.

[Likely Voter]

Message to the GOP...



Obama and the Dems want you to shut down the government over this. They know that the only GOPer to win the PV in the last 6 elections (Bush 2004) got 44% of the Latino vote (by supporting immigration reform) and Mitt Romney got 27% (by pushing 'self-deportation')

[KCDem]

I'm happy he is doing it, but he just ruined anything else happening you might like in his presidency, a fact you all know but won't admit. 

Glorious news! The Grand Bargain is dead!

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I'm happy he is doing it, but he just ruined anything else happening you might like in his presidency, a fact you all know but won't admit. 

That assumes McConnell and Boehner would actually let Obama have any accomplishments. What did he get in return for reaching across the aisle in 2009-2010 again?

It's not them who you need to worry about, it's the one's who wouldn't have voted with those two.  Both are going to face big defections from both the right and left, and Obama could have capitalized on it, if he didn't do this.  Now he is just too toxic for rep's to touch him.

No, Obama could not have done it.  The elusive era of bipartisanship many fondly remember was back when we had three parties, Republicans, Democrats, and Southern Democrats.  To return to anything like that, we need to have a situation where we have three parties with two of them united under a common banner and comfortable with that fact.  Possibly in a decade or two we could have something like that again if the Tea Party Republicans and the Regular Republicans start to peacefully coexist instead of threatening each other in the primaries over the soul of the party.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Romney did not lose in 2012 because of immigration or Hispanics. It might have been closer, but Hispanics had nothing to do with Romney losing OH, IA, NH and Wisconsin and Romney needed at least one of those (OH) even with VA, FL and CO where minority voting had an impact.

Romney would have lost amongst Hispanics anyway for the same reason he lost overall because he offered nothing that could promise a better outcome for low income working and middle class voters. No healthcare alternative, nothing stubstantive on education, didn't endorse minimum wage hike until over a year afterwards and so forth.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Message to the GOP...



Obama and the Dems want you to shut down the government over this. They know that the only GOPer to win the PV in the last 6 elections (Bush 2004) got 44% of the Latino vote (by supporting immigration reform) and Mitt Romney got 27% (by pushing 'self-deportation')

The Orwellian language is a great asset for the pro side of this. They can call it reform all the want, but the number of times you give amnesty, is the number of times that the root problem will be perpetuated.

This is perfectly exemplified in the lack of trust towards Obama and doing this will have destroyed any chance to address this legislatively and perhaps that is a good thing considering where the entire media and most of the leadership is now on the issue.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Bush also had six years working with the Hispanic community in Texas and ingratiating himself to both the TX and FL communities, whilst running on a platform that including NCLB and Medicare Part D, as well as a giant tax cut. It should come as now surprise that with a crack team of political operators, Bush was able to cultivate massive returns amongst Hispanics in 2004.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Obama 2016, Obama forever.

[TDAS04]

Good.