What do Governors do when the opposite party holds veto-proof majorities?
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« on: November 14, 2014, 07:28:32 PM »

Seems like a lot of the Governor's power is the veto pen. There's been some talk here about how maps showing control of the state government are incorrect when the legislature has a super majority in the opposite party. But surely the Governor has some influence, right? Is it any more then the threat of vetoing bills that there's some split of the majority party it?
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2014, 09:18:32 PM »

It's alot easier to talk about overturning a veto than it is in practice.
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2014, 10:08:30 PM »

Who are some current and former governors in that situation?

The only ones that come to mind are Mitt Romney, Linda Lingle and (I'm assuming) Dave Freudenthal.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2014, 10:17:46 PM »

Who are some current and former governors in that situation?

The only ones that come to mind are Mitt Romney, Linda Lingle and (I'm assuming) Dave Freudenthal.

Jay Nixon too, since I think vetos are over-ridden in Missouri by only a majority.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2014, 10:17:55 PM »

Nixon, Baker and Rauner will be in that situation.
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2014, 10:19:04 PM »

Even with veto proof majorities against them, governors have broad appointment powers.  In some states, they are very strong powers, such as New Jersey or Tennessee where the governor appoints most of the cabinet.  Here in Nebraska, the governor fills state legislative and judicial vacancies, cabinet vacancies, and appoints the county election commissioner for every county in the state. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2014, 10:28:30 PM »

It's alot easier to talk about overturning a veto than it is in practice.
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Not every member of the legislature's majority party will vote to override the veto on every issue.
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2014, 05:30:20 AM »

Nixon, Baker and Rauner will be in that situation.

The GOP also have a veto-proof majority in West Virginia (simple majority).

Next time, Earl Tomblin will think twice before vetoing an abortion ban.
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2014, 05:59:58 AM »

Veto overrides aren't always party-line.

In 2003, Pataki got unanimously overridden by the State Senate 119 times in the same day. Pataki was a former State Senator. Talk about getting spanked. The State Assembly had closer to a party line vote, but the Democrats have/had a 2/3rds majority there.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2014, 01:12:06 PM »

Nixon, Baker and Rauner will be in that situation.

Rauner's situation is different in kind than that of Nixon's and Baker's, while Nixon's is different in degree from Baker's.  Massachusetts' Democrat could do as they please. Republican in Missouri will need some degree of party discipline to govern. If the GOP members of the Illinois House hold together, an override will pass by one vote. That will make each and every Democratic member of the House "the decisive vote for [fill in the blank.]"  That is a politically untenable position in swing districts. It will also grants tremendous leverage to holdouts. I doubt Chicago will be able to work its will in such a situation.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2014, 07:04:08 PM »

Seemingly, how this will be a one termer, Rauner is, GOP gov can work with Dem majority on resending the tax increase and real estate tax reform and try to work out a better pension deal. But aside that, there isn't much room to compromise. Since a lot of real estate negotiating goes through the Cook County Commission board anyhow.
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2014, 09:06:35 AM »

They deal with it.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2014, 12:59:32 PM »

You do what Linda Lingle did: run around the state campaigning to get just enough members of your own party in the legislature so the opposite party can't keep overriding all your vetoes. The Democrats have such a huge majority in the Legislature that Lingle as a Republican was pretty much useless all eight years she was in office.
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