Hillary Clinton v. Ben Carson

[Yelnoc]

discuss with maps

[Lief 🗽]

[RR1997]

Ben Carson doesn't even have any political experience.

[MurrayBannerman]

Sigh...

[New_Conservative]

Assuming he runs a terrible campaign

If he turns out to be a good campaigner and politician:

[Lief 🗽]

Sigh...

"Sigh..." as in you think I'm being a hack?

[MurrayBannerman]

Sigh...

"Sigh..." as in you think I'm being a hack?

Sigh as in Carson would have no chance and you're totally right.

[IceSpear]

Hillary - 396
Carson - 142

Basically, the Republican floor barring a cataclysmic event or live girl/dead boy scenario. I used to think Hillary might be able to win Arkansas, but I'm reconsidering that after the election. While one should never read too much into 36% turnout midterms, one thing I think they did show is that Appalachia is dead for the Democrats for a long time. If even their homegrown Conservadems like Pryor get blown out of the water by double digits, what chance does Hillary (or any Democrat) have?

[Mr. Smith]

http://www.270towin.com/

No idea if this worked or not, but here's my theory if GOP goes to Carson.

The closest Carson win is West Virginia, which goes that way only because of Carson being a hack,...but the blatant anti-Democratic thing going here and now is still more than enough to stop Clinton.

The closest for Clinton is Kansas, and even then the map looks like Paul Davis,except add a few more counties.

Indiana was the hardest to figure out,but I'm giving it barely to Clinton since Carter and Bill almost got it and Obama got it the first time, proving it's not impossible. Turnout in Gary and Vigo county would probably be in droves to stop Carson.

But then again,Indiana only voted for FDR twice and has been GOP in every election since 1936 except 1964 and 2008...so...

[Mr. Morden]

White Democrat vs. Black Republican: Would the trend map be a reverse 2008 trend map?

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

Hillary Clinton - ~50-60%
Ben Carson - ~25-40%
Third Party "Centrist" (racist vote sink) - ~5-15%
Third Party Leftist 3-6%

The GOP could nominate Ted Cruz or *insert generic tea party loon here* and do much better. For what it's worth, I respect Ben Carson's story and think that he's a decent/intelligent guy who happens to have horrible political beliefs but America would never give a perceived Fox News personality a respectable share of the vote. Come on y'all, we don't live in a David Foster Wallace novel.

edit: I just remembered the names "Ross Perot" and "Arnold Schwarzenegger". Maybe we do live in a DFW novel. Maybe Ben Carson could win up to 45 percent of the vote.

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

The only issue I can think of that he is moderate on is immigration.

[Cory]

Hillary - 396
Carson - 142

[Vega]

I feel like Black Republican or not, the country is too polarized to let Clinton win too big a victory.

[Yelnoc]

I feel like Black Republican or not, the country is too polarized to let Clinton win too big a victory.

That's what I'm not sure about. How racist are the plains and mountain west states? I wonder if Clinton eking out a win somewhere like Idaho isn't out of the question.

Here is my map, for the record.

[Maxwell]

Tennessee but not Georgia? What?

[Yelnoc]

Tennessee but not Georgia? What?

Assumptions:

1. A black republican candidate will depress turnout among white conservatives
2. No Obama depresses turnout among blacks, hurting Hillary
3. The GA Democratic party continues to be useless