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« on: November 16, 2014, 02:03:53 AM »
Of course he was. For the 1996 campaign, his top adviser was Dick Morris. Dick Morris convinced him that he had to go total triangulating 3rd-way way to win. Dick Morris. Because Dick Morris is always right. Arkansas voted for Obama, right?
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2014, 02:08:32 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2014, 02:28:07 AM »
Fantastic politician. That's all I'll say.
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2014, 02:37:50 AM »
« Edited: November 16, 2014, 02:49:40 AM by Beet »
No (voted 'yes' by accident). There's no one in the country who puts forth the Democratic argument better than him. I'm convinced a huge part of Obama's massive convention bounce in early September 2012 was due to this speech.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2014, 06:53:04 AM »
He was an awful President in every sense of the word. Had it not been for the economic upswing that happened during his Presidency (which he had nothing to do with), he would likely be as unpopular in the public imagination as is Obama now.
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2014, 12:30:47 PM »
Yes, like Eisenhower he was mostly lucky enough to preside over an era of economic growth.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2014, 01:04:57 PM »
Of course not. Imagine, a president who forges bipartisan relationships in Washington and gets things done... wow!
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2014, 02:09:32 PM »
...and didn't said hallowed 'bipartisanship' ultimately end in Clinton being impeached or are my memories of the late 90s faulty?
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2014, 02:09:51 PM »
Quote from: HagridOfTheDeep on November 16, 2014, 01:04:57 PM
Of course not. Imagine, a president who forges bipartisan relationships in Washington and gets things done... wow!

Bad take.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2014, 02:25:28 PM »
But seriously. I remember the 1990s. There was no 'bipartisanship' - Republicans were every bit as hysterical about Clinton as they are now about Obama (although there was a creative edge to their frothing paranoid gibberish back then that is lacking at present, alas). What Clinton did was -after the 1994 debacle - to cave in to the Republican agenda on pretty much every aspect of domestic policy. And they still hated him...
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2014, 05:19:55 PM »
Clinton was one of the worst presidents in American history
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2014, 05:29:20 PM »
Quote from: Beet on November 16, 2014, 02:37:50 AM
No (voted 'yes' by accident). There's no one in the country who puts forth the Democratic argument better than him. I'm convinced a huge part of Obama's massive convention bounce in early September 2012 was due to this speech.

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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2014, 08:30:55 PM »
Terrible president.
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2014, 09:58:42 PM »
Quote from: National Progressive on November 16, 2014, 12:30:47 PM
Yes, like Eisenhower he was mostly lucky enough to preside over an era of economic growth.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2014, 10:46:41 PM »
I am sure even he thinks that, especially after Arkansas essentially turned its back on him....   
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2014, 01:55:17 AM »
As a political talent, he is not overrated.
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2014, 01:20:04 PM »
Of course, and most former Presidents get a poll boost the longer they've been out, so it's not unusual.
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2014, 06:11:11 PM »
Proof that good politics =/= good policy. Not that anyone cares about the difference.
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2014, 11:09:45 PM »
He is a bit overrated, but still a great POTUS overall.
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