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« on: November 18, 2014, 11:02:18 PM »

Your Mary fetish is kinda disturbing.  But then its quite typical for Catholics to be smug about their pagan substitute worship.

I suppose you pray to Saints, elevating them to the level of God... Hell,myou probably even light candles to idolatrous images of them in your church.  Cuz God was vague when it came to idol worship...

Now watch the catholics get huffy and indignant and holier than thou.

I say if you're going to be Christian, then stick to the message of Jesus.

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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2014, 11:18:50 PM »

Your Mary fetish is kinda disturbing.  But then its quite typical for Catholics to be smug about their pagan substitute worship.

I suppose you pray to Saints, elevating them to the level of God... Hell,myou probably even light candles to idolatrous images of them in your church.  Cuz God was vague when it came to idol worship...

Now watch the catholics get huffy and indignant and holier than thou.

I say if you're going to be Christian, then stick to the message of Jesus.

That's not a particularly accurate summary of Catholic marian theology or view of the saints, but I agree with the underlying idea.
The history of the church and its elevation of Mary over time to suit the pagans they were converting has corrupted Christianity in the eyes of many protestants.

The idea that Mary never sinned was made up by the same power hungry old men that thought you should pay a sum to get Old Uncle Chet out of purgatory.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2014, 11:22:55 PM »

It never ceases to amaze me how non-Catholics know more about my religion than I do, and I haven't missed church in the last 30 months so I'm not particularly non-practicing.

I don't understand how people can spar over seemingly insignificant details. The big picture is the same, and the message is the same!
I think its more Nathans implication that treating Mary as less important than he does is misogyny.
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2014, 11:27:50 PM »

One hardly has to have a Mariology as traditional as mine to think that Bushie's views on Mary--that her personality and desires were essentially irrelevant to why God chose her and that she essentially functioned as an incubator--are misogynistic. I certainly don't think BRTD's Mariology is misogynistic, and it's in substance probably about as Low as Bushie's.
You literally know nothing of Mary's personality or desires.  You only know what other men wrote about her.

You can assume God picked her because she was faithful and a virgin... But its not like you have access to her memoirs.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2014, 11:43:03 PM »

Please don't equate what I am saying to defense of Bushies infantile version of Christianity. 

I am simply trying to give you the same treatment as you give Bushie, Nathan.  That is... Smug, dismissive contempt.

I have no doubt that you are well versed in the gospels.  So am I.  So is Bushie.

So, in the end its all coming down to "Im smarter and better at God than you"
That pisses me off.
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2014, 11:51:27 PM »

I'm not trying to give Bushie smug, dismissive contempt. I'm trying to give him blistering, infuriated contempt.
And it will make zero difference and only cause you stress and anxiety.  Just let him have his faith, flawed or not.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2014, 12:10:27 AM »

He admitted Rudolph the claymation reindeer is a pleasant side dish to his Jesus beefy butt roast.  Dont take offense, Nathan... Just throw your arms up in despair.

And if you want to take a play out of the fundie book... Tell him youll pray for him in such a tone that suggests he needs it.
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