Update XIX: Melancholy and the Infinite Napping

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That's called an etymology, Bushie, not an abbreviation.

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I recommend seasonal music to accompany Update:

On the twelfth day of Christmas, my Bushie gave to me:

•   12 jobs a-failing
•   11 excuses boiling
•   10 hours sleeping
•   9 pins a-falling
•   8 bowls a-gorging
•   7 games a-watching
•   6 dinners attending

•   5 GOLDEN CORRALS!

•   4 ex-fiancés
•   3 church groups
•   2 sad dogs
•   And a sack of unused walking gear

It won't be even the first day of Christmas for another month and change. This music isn't 'seasonal'. STOP THE WAR ON ADVENT.

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Ham sandwiches

Why?

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HD, I don't do spinach or tomatoes.

Why?

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HD, I don't do spinach or tomatoes.

Why?

Never liked them.

Suck it up.

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So far today I've had a large Cortland apple, a small bowl of maple syrup yogurt, a tall glass of apple cider, two small slices of leftover olive-and-onion pizza, and a small bowl of spinach, carrot, and onion salad with olive oil and vinegar dressing. I'm thinking of having a peanut butter sandwich and a few glasses of water later in the afternoon, and for dinner I'll probably have a bowl or two of fish soup. And this isn't even me eating particularly well. Does any of that sound at all appealing to you, Bushie?

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Update: I had the peanut butter sandwich.

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Ugh. This is sickening. At this point Bushie is about one step up from the average Flannery O'Connor character at the beginning of his or her respective story, spiritually speaking.

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Ugh. This is sickening. At this point Bushie is about one step up from the average Flannery O'Connor character at the beginning of his or her respectively story, spiritually speaking.

I would say he is on par, but maybe I haven't read enough to judge it accurately.

No, you're absolutely right, I was just being charitable.

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did he ever find out how he could break his lease in tulsa.

i know he was focused on looking in to looking in to it a few pages ago.

I don't know if he ever actually did any research, but he definitely went all in on the focus part of it.

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You can't know where you're going. Nobody can. What you're describing is a living hope.

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Let me reiterate, guys, I am not scared of death, nor should I be.  Nathan, I believe one can know definitively about their own salvation.  God doesn't want us to live in fear and wonder all our lives IF we will go to heaven or not.  He gives us the ability and the grace to know that we know that we know where we will spend eternity.  God is not the author of fear.  He is the author of peace.  The hymn says "Blessed Assurance, Jesus is mine.  O what a foretaste of glory divine.  Heir of salvation, purchase of God.  Born of His spirit, washed in His blood.  This is my story, this is my song, praising my Savior all the day long.  This is my story, this is my song, praising my Savior all the day long."  That hymn tells it like it is.  That doesn't sound like fear and wonder to me, that sounds like complete assurance and absolute peace.

Carrying a living hope rather than a dead certainty is not 'fear', Bushie, it's just humility.

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Let me reiterate, guys, I am not scared of death, nor should I be.  Nathan, I believe one can know definitively about their own salvation.  God doesn't want us to live in fear and wonder all our lives IF we will go to heaven or not.  He gives us the ability and the grace to know that we know that we know where we will spend eternity.  God is not the author of fear.  He is the author of peace.  The hymn says "Blessed Assurance, Jesus is mine.  O what a foretaste of glory divine.  Heir of salvation, purchase of God.  Born of His spirit, washed in His blood.  This is my story, this is my song, praising my Savior all the day long.  This is my story, this is my song, praising my Savior all the day long."  That hymn tells it like it is.  That doesn't sound like fear and wonder to me, that sounds like complete assurance and absolute peace.

Carrying a living hope rather than a dead certainty is not 'fear', Bushie, it's just humility.

Look at this response.  Nathan, you might be irritated with how I go about being anti-religion or irreligious... but please tell me you at least "get it". 

Yeah. I do. Bushie's beliefs make strange bedfellows.

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Let me reiterate, guys, I am not scared of death, nor should I be.  Nathan, I believe one can know definitively about their own salvation.  God doesn't want us to live in fear and wonder all our lives IF we will go to heaven or not.  He gives us the ability and the grace to know that we know that we know where we will spend eternity.  God is not the author of fear.  He is the author of peace.  The hymn says "Blessed Assurance, Jesus is mine.  O what a foretaste of glory divine.  Heir of salvation, purchase of God.  Born of His spirit, washed in His blood.  This is my story, this is my song, praising my Savior all the day long.  This is my story, this is my song, praising my Savior all the day long."  That hymn tells it like it is.  That doesn't sound like fear and wonder to me, that sounds like complete assurance and absolute peace.

Carrying a living hope rather than a dead certainty is not 'fear', Bushie, it's just humility.

Look at this response.  Nathan, you might be irritated with how I go about being anti-religion or irreligious... but please tell me you at least "get it". 

Yeah. I do. Bushie's beliefs make strange bedfellows.

Are you referring to yourself and Bushie both being classified as "Christians"? 

That, and you and I both being classified as 'people who are appalled by Bushie's bullsh**t piety'.

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Advent is also a penitential season, but I doubt Bushie or his church will be giving that much thought.

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Advent is also a penitential season, but I doubt Bushie or his church will be giving that much thought.

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Advent is also a penitential season, but I doubt Bushie or his church will be giving that much thought.

Advent and Christmas are the same seasons.

What? No they're not.

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Well, you shouldn't be because that's not what Advent is there for. It's an entire liturgical season dedicated specifically to the fact that it is not yet Christmas.

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...you know what? I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.

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Advent is also a penitential season, but I doubt Bushie or his church will be giving that much thought.

Advent and Christmas are the same seasons. 

You're literally too stupid.

The abandonment of the liturgical year and the penitential seasons is all part and parcel of the same complex of bad, self-destructive theology as all the other [Inks]-ed up attributes and beliefs that Bushie insists there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH.

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Advent is also a penitential season, but I doubt Bushie or his church will be giving that much thought.

Advent and Christmas are the same seasons.

What? No they're not.

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Well, you shouldn't be because that's not what Advent is there for. It's an entire liturgical season dedicated specifically to the fact that it is not yet Christmas.

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...you know what? I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.

As Ebenezer Scrooge said in the Muppet Christmas Carol - "You keep Christmas in your own way and let me keep it in mine."

Bad theology is everyone's problem.

Anyway, I'm going to keep Christmas ADVENT by posting a beautiful, spiritually and aesthetically fulfilling Advent hymn or carol in this thread for every day of Advent I remember to. Starting off: 'Joseph est bien marié' ('Joseph is well-married') by the eighteenth-century French composer Claude Balbastre.

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Advent is also a penitential season, but I doubt Bushie or his church will be giving that much thought.

Advent and Christmas are the same seasons.  By celebrating Advent, we are celebrating Christmas and vice-versa.  It's like Lent and Easter, they are one in the same.  You're right, though, Southern Baptists don't generally celebrate either Advent or Lent.  It doesn't make us wrong.

Celebrating Christmas without Advent and Easter without Lent is celebrating the feast without the fast, it's like the Resurrection without the Cross, the birth without the labor, and the victory without the battle. Not to pick on you in particular Bushie since you're far from the only one who sees it this way, but how are we going to build a Christian culture of virtue upon self-denial if we throw out all the parts of Christianity that deal with that?

What you and Nathan seem to be suggesting is that we shouldn't be listening to Christmas music or celebrating Christmas in any way but for a couple days each year?

Christmas last almost two weeks, Bushie. That's no small amount of time for festivities. You can even make a case from tradition for dragging it out until around the Feast of the Presentation of the Lord if you really want to.

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Bushie, this is not 'Nam, this is religion. There are rules.

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Like I said, in Bushie's case--this obviously isn't the case for everybody, but in Bushie's case--the rejection of the liturgical year and in particular of the penitential seasons is part and parcel of the same complex of terrible theology that is ruining his life, and by extensions the lives of his loved ones.

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But you don't seem to celebrate them fervently. You seem to celebrate them rather torpidly, in ways that betray enormous amounts of anomie.

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Like I said, in Bushie's case--this obviously isn't the case for everybody, but in Bushie's case--the rejection of the liturgical year and in particular of the penitential seasons is part and parcel of the same complex of terrible theology that is ruining his life, and by extensions the lives of his loved ones.

If only Bushie were Catholic (or Episcopal or Whatever) his life would be saved and he would be a totally upstanding person

I have you on ignore now but I clicked 'show' because normally your posts in the Update threads are...tolerable, occasionally even insightful. Imagine my disappointment when this is what I found. Putting it simply: That's not what I said, moron.

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Bad theology is everyone's problem.

Personally?  No Nathan.  No it is not.  

In the idea that you religiouses ruin everything?  Yea, sure.  I don't even think "everything" is a stretch.  Talk to me when one of you nutjobs gets their hands on a nuke.  Everything will quite literally be ruined, no?

Can we please continue the ceasefire we had going a few pages ago? We are (or should be) on basically the same side for Update purposes.