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« Reply #50 on: December 01, 2014, 07:18:53 AM »
AYE ... with reservations.
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« Reply #51 on: December 01, 2014, 07:32:09 AM »
Really I'm quite shocked by this piece of legislation.

I guess this is because I live in France?
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« Reply #52 on: December 01, 2014, 08:50:49 AM »
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« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2014, 01:42:00 PM »
Quote from: Mideast Senator windjammer on December 01, 2014, 07:32:09 AM
Really I'm quite shocked by this piece of legislation.

I guess this is because I live in France?

Windjammer, we are not introducing child labor. We are allowing to let them have a summer job, which is as far as I know, common practice in about every European state, and I would be very surprised if such would be prohibited in France.
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« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2014, 01:46:46 PM »
Quote from: Senator Cranberry on December 01, 2014, 01:42:00 PM
Quote from: Mideast Senator windjammer on December 01, 2014, 07:32:09 AM
Really I'm quite shocked by this piece of legislation.

I guess this is because I live in France?

Windjammer, we are not introducing child labor. We are allowing to let them have a summer job, which is as far as I know, common practice in about every European state, and I would be very surprised if such would be prohibited in France.

Of course you're not reintroducing child labor a la 18th century Tongue.

But no, people in France are prohibited from having a regular job when they're 15, not the summer job though.

And I fail to know anyone who has a regular job before 18. (except the summer jobs)
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« Reply #55 on: December 01, 2014, 01:57:05 PM »
Aye
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« Reply #56 on: December 03, 2014, 07:01:43 PM »
Aye: Cranberry, Yankee, Polnut, bore

Nay: TNF, JCL, Windjammer

Not voting: Deus, Bacon King

By a vote of 4-3 the amendment is adopted
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« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2014, 10:33:29 AM »
What's the current text here?
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« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2014, 02:13:38 PM »
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Offering this as an amendment:

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« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2014, 04:49:02 PM »
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« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2014, 03:48:32 AM »
I object.
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« Reply #61 on: December 05, 2014, 05:43:34 AM »
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« Reply #62 on: December 05, 2014, 07:47:14 AM »
Senators, a vote is open on JCL's amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain
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« Reply #63 on: December 05, 2014, 08:49:43 AM »
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10 hours is definitely too much if the person in question has to concentrate on school stuff as well...
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« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2014, 08:59:56 AM »
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« Reply #65 on: December 05, 2014, 09:30:20 AM »
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« Reply #66 on: December 05, 2014, 12:26:31 PM »
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« Reply #67 on: December 05, 2014, 06:41:10 PM »
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« Reply #68 on: December 06, 2014, 07:29:24 AM »
I don't believe legalizing child work for 14 years during summer is crazy, even if I disagree with that.

But come on, this amendment is basically a return in the 19th century.
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« Reply #69 on: December 06, 2014, 08:29:39 AM »
This amendment has enough votes to fail, senators have 24 hours to change their votes
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« Reply #70 on: December 06, 2014, 12:54:07 PM »
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« Reply #71 on: December 06, 2014, 02:22:35 PM »
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« Reply #72 on: December 06, 2014, 03:45:29 PM »
Quote from: Senator Cranberry on December 05, 2014, 08:49:43 AM
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10 hours is definitely too much if the person in question has to concentrate on school stuff as well...

I beg to differ. Some of my younger siblings maintained jobs while in high school in addition to extra-curricular activities. It can be done in the right circumstances. I fully agree having an academic standard to work.
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« Reply #73 on: December 06, 2014, 11:17:20 PM »
AYE but with reservations


clause three would have to contain some greater limitations if exemptions are to be made similar to previous debates on the matter where such texts were composed.
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« Reply #74 on: December 07, 2014, 06:43:06 AM »
Quote from: Senator JCL and the geologist on December 06, 2014, 03:45:29 PM
Quote from: Senator Cranberry on December 05, 2014, 08:49:43 AM
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10 hours is definitely too much if the person in question has to concentrate on school stuff as well...

I beg to differ. Some of my younger siblings maintained jobs while in high school in addition to extra-curricular activities. It can be done in the right circumstances. I fully agree having an academic standard to work.

I don't say that it can't be done in the right circumstances. If one has the support at home one needs, one can surely accomplish many things others wouldn't be able to accomplish.
But yeah, such an academic standard as Senator TNF proposed would be a good solution to this problem.
I am also okay with the 15 year limit, so I will support TNF's amendment.
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