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« on: November 20, 2014, 07:50:05 PM »

There has been talk of my home state going blue, which Ive been wanting to see happen since, forever. The only problem with this, is that I think it's highly unlikely. It' mostly really rural, with a total population of about 500,000. Cheyenne, my current residence, has only about 50,000 residents, which is small for a "big city". But people are saying that if Hillary ran, she could possibly sweep the state by a small margin?

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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2014, 07:50:56 PM »

No.

And where is this "talk" coming from?
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2014, 07:51:28 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2014, 07:53:07 PM »

Sure, and the Chicago Cubs will win the World Series.
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2014, 07:54:41 PM »

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Polls in the newspaper Wyoming Tribune Eagle, which is a local newspaper for Cheyenne, found that 53% of Wyomingite's would vote for Hillary.
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2014, 07:55:34 PM »

It happens if DC goes Republican.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2014, 07:58:05 PM »

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Polls in the newspaper Wyoming Tribune Eagle, which is a local newspaper for Cheyenne, found that 53% of Wyomingite's would vote for Hillary.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2014, 08:00:44 PM »

Funny enough, I don't think it has a website. I just get it every morning. Wyoming isn't really techy, and our internet is slow
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2014, 08:03:32 PM »

I think it is possible with the right candidate, simply because Wyoming is so small.
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2014, 08:06:46 PM »

I think it is possible with the right candidate, simply because Wyoming is so small.

I don't know about that. Even if the Democratic Presidential nominee was from King County TX, they'd almost certainly lose their home county.
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2014, 08:17:05 PM »

I think it is possible with the right candidate, simply because Wyoming is so small.

I don't know about that. Even if the Democratic Presidential nominee was from King County TX, they'd almost certainly lose their home county.

Wyoming and other states in the area like the Dakotas or Montana are different than Texas or the South.  Democratic candidates have to deal with a lot of baggage there that they probably don't have to deal with in Wyoming.  I would say that while Wyoming is probably the most republican state, it's also a lot more elastic than Alabama or even Mississippi.
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2014, 08:20:28 PM »

Nope
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2014, 08:20:42 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2014, 08:23:03 PM »

@IceSpear

Polls in the newspaper Wyoming Tribune Eagle, which is a local newspaper for Cheyenne, found that 53% of Wyomingite's would vote for Hillary.

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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2014, 08:24:42 PM »

I have thought I've seen it all.
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2014, 08:27:28 PM »


The pigs still aren't flying and Rosie O'Donnell isn't a size zero.
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2014, 08:29:06 PM »

I checked the newspaper website but I couldn't find anything.
http://www.wyomingnews.com/
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2014, 08:30:50 PM »

@IceSpear

I recycled it..

Who keeps newspapers once they have already read them.
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2014, 08:32:46 PM »

There has been talk of my home state going blue, which Ive been wanting to see happen since, forever. The only problem with this, is that I think it's highly unlikely. It' mostly really rural, with a total population of about 500,000. Cheyenne, my current residence, has only about 50,000 residents, which is small for a "big city". But people are saying that if Hillary ran, she could possibly sweep the state by a small margin?

Discuss

Take a trip up to Gillette and spend a day or two asking people if they (or anyone they know) would vote for Hillary Clinton.
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2014, 08:35:01 PM »

Guys, just for the record, this happened a few months ago. I only found this site today, so the newspaper article is long gone, probably recycled into a pencil or whatever they are reused for. And the polls might have changed, I really don't get a lot of election polls around here, usually just the final result of the real thing.

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Wow! I never knew they even had a website. I'm gonna bookmark that.
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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2014, 08:46:56 PM »

No Wyoming polls that I know of, but PPP did do an Idaho poll.  She was down anywhere between 11 and 19 points to various challengers.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/10/idaho-governors-race-close-but-otter-has-room-to-grow.html
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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2014, 08:51:03 PM »

No Wyoming polls that I know of, but PPP did do an Idaho poll.  She was down anywhere between 11 and 19 points to various challengers.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/10/idaho-governors-race-close-but-otter-has-room-to-grow.html

Wyoming polls are never done because of this:

United States Senate election in Wyoming, 2012

John Barrasso  75.90%    +2.55%
Tim Chesnut    21.60%    -4.93%
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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2014, 08:58:16 PM »

Re: Could Wyoming go Democrat in 2016?

Not in 2016.

But...


Imagine a Democratic presidential winner re-elected with carriage of 49 states.

The holdout would be Utah.

So it is…possible.

Long as that re-elected Democratic president wins about a 25-point margin in the U.S. Popular Vote (which, with 130 million votes cast, would be winning the U.S. Popular Vote by about 32.5 million raw votes).

By the way: Which Republican would help make this "possible"?
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« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2014, 09:00:11 PM »

Re: Could Wyoming go Democrat in 2016?

Imagine a Democratic presidential winner re-elected with carriage of 49 states.

The holdout would be Utah.

So it is…possible.

Long as that re-elected Democratic president wins about a 25-point margin in the U.S. Popular Vote (which, with 130 million votes cast, would be winning the U.S. Popular Vote by about 32.5 million raw votes.

By the way: Which Republican would help make this "possible"?

I think a northeastern Republican like Charlie Baker would draw disastrously in those interior western states.
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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2014, 09:39:17 PM »

Re: Could Wyoming go Democrat in 2016?

By the way: Which Republican would help make this "possible"?
Imagine a scenario in which two Republicans, say Ted Cruz and Chris Christie, fight in a long drawn out primary battle.  Ted Cruz is in the lead, but then Christie pulls through with a deal with a dropped out candidate who had a handful of delegates.  That candidate becomes the vice president and Cruz is out for blood, vowing to take the fight to the general election.

Hillary easily dispatches challenges from Webb and Sanders, who each get roughly 15% of the vote in Iowa and New Hampshire before dropping out. 

Cruz v. Chistie v. Clinton is a blowout.  Cruz and Christie spend the debates ripping each other apart out of spite, while Clinton is free to espouse a populist message unhindered.


Nationwide Result:
Clinton: 56% (531 EVs)
Christie: 24% (0 EVs)
Cruz: 20% (6 EVs)

Wyoming:
Clinton: 35%
Cruz: 34%
Christie: 31%
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