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« on: November 21, 2014, 02:53:55 AM »

Whew, what a week! Failure to pass the Keystone Pipeline on Tuesday, an executive order granting amnesty for illegal immigrants on Thursday...what could Mary Landrieu's party have planned for her next? Will they take a tiny break next week for Thanksgiving or do they have too much work to do to prevent her from cracking 40%?
First off, it's not amnesty. These people that his orders affect are given no permanent residency, no pathway to citizenship, they're just told "Hey, look, for the next 3 years we're going to deport as many criminals as we can rather than wasting our time on lesser problems, so you can come out of the shadows safely for 3 years provided you pay fines and back taxes". There's also some strengthening of DACA. Yes, he's hoping that within 3 years some very long path to citizenship is passed, but that's nothing more than a hope.

Second, the answer is nothing. Obama was going to do these executive orders regardless of how the senate elections went, and the keystone vote only happened because Landrieu quite literally begged Reid to death for several years to allow a clean keystone vote, and he finally obliged.

Any action that greater potential to encourage then discourage future illegal immigration while attempting resolving the issue of those illegals already present is or might as well be amnesty. Were it not for that likelihood, save for the matter of adhering to rule of law, there would be no practical downside to immediately normalizing and not even bothering with "a path".

Obama can prioritize enforcement of different segments all he wants, but when he gets into the business of offering legal status affirmatively, he is overstepping his powers. He can say don't deport (decrminizalize by default), but he has no power to change the official legal status of these four million or so effected by the order or waive employment regulations regarding the hiring of them.
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2014, 06:43:12 PM »

She'll be back in 2016 because Vitters seat will be an open seat because Vitter is running for Governor. 

She deserves credit for hanging in this long in a state that has gotten more R since her first election to the US Senate in 1996.

Does LA not allow Governor's to appoint Senate vacancies? If they do, then Vitter will likely appoint Steve Scalise to the seat in December of next year (Governor's still take office in December no?).
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2014, 01:06:37 AM »

She'll be back in 2016 because Vitters seat will be an open seat because Vitter is running for Governor. 

She deserves credit for hanging in this long in a state that has gotten more R since her first election to the US Senate in 1996.

Does LA not allow Governor's to appoint Senate vacancies? If they do, then Vitter will likely appoint Steve Scalise to the seat in December of next year (Governor's still take office in December no?).
No, Scalise is number 3 in Republican Leadership in the US House. Why would Scalise ever give a leadership role up? I think Boustany or Fleming will get appointed to the US Senate if that in fact is the correct process to go through. My bets are on Fleming at this point.

Trent Lott did it. Mike Pence did it. Also leadership are term limited in the GOP and Scalise could easily be dumped off as a Chairman in seven years, getting passed over for the top job. And whoever takes the Senate seat could occupy it for a long time. If Scalise considers it a more promising route with McCarthy ahead of him for Speaker, as well as Paul Ryan dangling out there as an option, Senate could sound rather appealing and Scalise probably has right of first refusal.
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