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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2014, 02:31:51 PM »

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Here is my amendment,
1d is too vague to be enforceable, that's the reason. And I quite agree with TNF as well.
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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2014, 09:29:46 AM »

The Amendment is friendly.
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« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2014, 10:34:52 AM »

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« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2014, 01:02:06 PM »

Well this has been here a while with virtually no debate.
Senator Windjammer's amendment is referring to a point most Senators and most of the public frankly don't care, the "big" question, in my eyes, whether or not unions exceeding membership of a certain part of employees should be allowed to bargain for their whole sector, remains untouched. The debate here seems to have slept in, so I wonder if it wouldn't be time to proceed to a final vote?

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« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2014, 02:03:55 PM »

I am preparing an amendment.
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« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2014, 03:55:57 PM »

Well this has been here a while with virtually no debate.
Senator Windjammer's amendment is referring to a point most Senators and most of the public frankly don't care, the "big" question, in my eyes, whether or not unions exceeding membership of a certain part of employees should be allowed to bargain for their whole sector, remains untouched. The debate here seems to have slept in, so I wonder if it wouldn't be time to proceed to a final vote?


Well this is our duty to try to write the Best possible laws Tongue
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« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2014, 12:27:59 PM »

Well this has been here a while with virtually no debate.
Senator Windjammer's amendment is referring to a point most Senators and most of the public frankly don't care, the "big" question, in my eyes, whether or not unions exceeding membership of a certain part of employees should be allowed to bargain for their whole sector, remains untouched. The debate here seems to have slept in, so I wonder if it wouldn't be time to proceed to a final vote?


Well this is our duty to try to write the Best possible laws Tongue

But this is on weeks now, and the last real debate has happened I guess two days after this being brought to the floor. One could argue its also our duty to this a bit more efficiently Tongue
But as TNF said he would offer an amendment, forget everything I have said.
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« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2014, 01:36:29 PM »

Well this has been here a while with virtually no debate.
Senator Windjammer's amendment is referring to a point most Senators and most of the public frankly don't care, the "big" question, in my eyes, whether or not unions exceeding membership of a certain part of employees should be allowed to bargain for their whole sector, remains untouched. The debate here seems to have slept in, so I wonder if it wouldn't be time to proceed to a final vote?


Well this is our duty to try to write the Best possible laws Tongue

But this is on weeks now, and the last real debate has happened I guess two days after this being brought to the floor. One could argue its also our duty to this a bit more efficiently Tongue
But as TNF said he would offer an amendment, forget everything I have said.

Yeah, I'm also not inclined to rush TNF because due to the rules he's only blocking his own bills from reaching the floor.
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« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2014, 07:25:32 AM »

TNF?

If no amendment is forthcoming I'll have to open a final vote.
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« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2014, 03:37:44 PM »

I need just a little bit longer. Sorry, work has been killer the past two days.
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« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2014, 05:37:16 PM »

While I am interested in seeing TNF's amendment I would like to point out that I don't see myself signing the current version of the bill, and I would indeed consider a veto, mostly for the reasons I explained before in this thread and some of the arguments given by other Senators. I don't feel it's representative to award representation of such wide sectors to a single union.
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« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2014, 10:32:56 AM »

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First in a series of amendments here.
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« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2014, 12:43:39 PM »

Well, I guess we shall wait for the other amendments too...
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« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2014, 01:12:12 PM »

Am I dreaming TNF, or you seem to have even more moved to the left since the result of the last election? Tongue
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« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2014, 02:25:55 PM »


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« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2014, 08:41:56 AM »

This amendment has passed
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« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2014, 09:31:22 AM »

On second thought, I think that this is good as is. It probably won't pass, but I can't change anymore of it without seriously compromising the integrity and intent of the legislation.
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« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2014, 05:11:59 PM »

I motion for a final vote.
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« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2014, 11:19:35 AM »

I second the motion.
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« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2014, 01:12:40 PM »

Senators a final vote is now open on this bill, please vote aye nay or abstain
 
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« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2014, 01:48:13 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2014, 01:52:50 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2014, 07:43:41 AM »

This closes in about 30 hours
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« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2014, 10:29:30 AM »

Woops, I didn't see this before.

Well, I guess this bill won't pass anyway, but I do like the spirit of this bill. The process of the union having to be approved to conduct bargaining is sensible, just I don't understand how that thing in 1a wouldn't work; though I doubt any union has such a high number of members at the moment. Anyway, it is I guess a bit too late now to start nitpicking, so I'll just cast my vote now.

I guess, AYE (?)
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« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2014, 10:39:19 AM »

Aye

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