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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2014, 04:59:20 PM »

Just got an update on Politico saying that Flournoy has taken herself out of the running
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« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2014, 05:03:48 PM »

I wish it was Reed. Then Rhode Island could get a new senator.
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« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2014, 05:25:17 PM »

I wish it was Reed. Then Rhode Island could get a new senator.

Be careful what you wish for. Their new governor is a fiscal conservative.
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« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2014, 05:29:03 PM »

I wish it was Reed. Then Rhode Island could get a new senator.

Be careful what you wish for. Their new governor is a fiscal conservative.

Maybe she will try to appease liberals by appointing Cicciline, the first openly gay male senator.
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« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2014, 05:31:42 PM »

Just got an update on Politico saying that Flournoy has taken herself out of the running


What was her reason?
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« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2014, 05:33:48 PM »

She removed her name from consideration due to family concerns.
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« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2014, 08:30:19 PM »

So I guess Ashton Carter is now the frontrunner for the job, by process of elimination?
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« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2014, 09:17:05 PM »

I hope we get a community organizer.

Worked out great for the Presidency, why not extend the idea to other senior posts?
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« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2014, 10:44:16 PM »

Where's John McCain when we need him?
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« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2014, 10:50:34 PM »

I hope we get a community organizer.

Worked out great for the Presidency, why not extend the idea to other senior posts?

I dislike Obama probably as much as you and definitely much more than most Atlas users but can you stop repeating false attacks? The guy was a professor on Constitutional Law (don't think it did him that much good...) and a U.S. Senator and you say that he was a "community organizer." That is just bending the truth to fit a narrative.
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« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2014, 10:51:38 PM »

But seriously, I am not sure that a bureaucrat is the right person at this time to head this crucial department.
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« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2014, 11:02:04 PM »

But seriously, I am not sure that a bureaucrat is the right person at this time to head this crucial department.

Well we just had a senator in at the job and look at how that turned out...

It's not going to be McCain as he's already gearing up for reelection and I feel would have trouble working with Obama, and Jack Reed has already shown that he is not interested. Who would you suggest?

I would have no problem with someone who has experience working in the DoD.
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« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2014, 12:32:12 AM »

But seriously, I am not sure that a bureaucrat is the right person at this time to head this crucial department.

Well we just had a senator in at the job and look at how that turned out...

It's not going to be McCain as he's already gearing up for reelection and I feel would have trouble working with Obama, and Jack Reed has already shown that he is not interested. Who would you suggest?

I would have no problem with someone who has experience working in the DoD.

I would recommend outgoing Colorado Senator Mark Udall for Defense Secretary.

I am sure Udall would jump at the chance, and would not have any problem clearing confirmation.

With relevance to DoD, Udall has the following Senate experience

Committee on Armed Services
Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities
Subcommittee on Readiness and Management Support
Subcommittee on Strategic Forces (Chairman)
Select Committee on Intelligence
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« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2014, 04:44:25 AM »

I hope we get a community organizer.

Worked out great for the Presidency, why not extend the idea to other senior posts?

I dislike Obama probably as much as you and definitely much more than most Atlas users but can you stop repeating false attacks? The guy was a professor on Constitutional Law (don't think it did him that much good...) and a U.S. Senator and you say that he was a "community organizer." That is just bending the truth to fit a narrative.

Are you the anti-King? Tongue
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« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2014, 04:52:48 AM »

Rep. Adam Smith (WA-09) is rumored to be in consideration.

Smith was one of the first people to endorse Obama in the '08 primary.
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« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2014, 06:43:08 AM »

I hope we get a community organizer.

Worked out great for the Presidency, why not extend the idea to other senior posts?

I dislike Obama probably as much as you and definitely much more than most Atlas users but can you stop repeating false attacks? The guy was a professor on Constitutional Law (don't think it did him that much good...) and a U.S. Senator and you say that he was a "community organizer." That is just bending the truth to fit a narrative.

Are you the anti-King? Tongue

Well I don't know his stances, but I noticed that he was a Republican from NM; I believe his name is a callback to Bruce King but probably not his kid Gary.

I differ from many dems in some views so maybe not completely anti-King.
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« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2014, 08:43:59 AM »

So I guess Ashton Carter is now the frontrunner for the job, by process of elimination?

Ashton Carter, his successor Bob Work, or possibly, as mentioned already, Adam Smith.
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« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2014, 09:09:47 AM »

I read yesterday that Smith isn't very enthusiastic to throw away 20 years of seniority for 2 years as SoD.
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« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2014, 09:39:16 AM »

What's Tom Ridge doing these days?
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« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2014, 09:58:09 AM »
« Edited: November 26, 2014, 09:59:47 AM by Cardinal and IDS Legislator X, Tzar of Russia »

I read yesterday that Smith isn't very enthusiastic to throw away 20 years of seniority for 2 years as SoD.

Plus, relative to most Congressmen, Smith is a young guy in a safe seat (iirc, he's only like 49 and is already ranking member on the House Armed Services committee), he will probably still be in office whenever the Dems eventually retake the House which means he'll likely be Chairman one day if he's patient.  Why throw that away to be a two-term SoD who will probably be largely shut out of the decision making process like Hagel was?  I'd be shocked if Smith accepted the post in the event it was even offered, I suspect he's going to be a Congressman for quite some time unless he's eventually redistricted into a Republican district (which seems unlikely barring a major realignment, plus he's a pretty strong incumbent so I think he'd hang on even if his district was somehow drawn to be more competitive in 20-30 years.  I doubt he'll be discomforted much in the next round of redistricting, even if the Republicans get another good map.

Note: Sorry for the length, I didn't mean to write a wall of text on Adam Smith's political future.
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« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2014, 11:08:02 PM »

I hope we get a community organizer.

Worked out great for the Presidency, why not extend the idea to other senior posts?

I dislike Obama probably as much as you and definitely much more than most Atlas users but can you stop repeating false attacks? The guy was a professor on Constitutional Law (don't think it did him that much good...) and a U.S. Senator and you say that he was a "community organizer." That is just bending the truth to fit a narrative.

Are you the anti-King? Tongue

Well I don't know his stances, but I noticed that he was a Republican from NM; I believe his name is a callback to Bruce King but probably not his kid Gary.

I differ from many dems in some views so maybe not completely anti-King.

If 90% of your comments are anti-Democrat despite having a Democratic avatar, then you will be. Tongue
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« Reply #46 on: November 27, 2014, 12:28:50 AM »

It was nice to have a grunt as SecDef even if Hagel seems to have had problems.
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« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2014, 02:05:30 PM »

It was nice to have a grunt as SecDef even if Hagel seems to have had problems.

I can't help but wonder if that was part of why he had problems. And possibly why he was out - he doesn't seem to have been in favor of throwing more young kids into the meat-masher.
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