Grand jury reaches decision in Ferguson case (Announcement Monday night)

[Reaganfan]

Shut up, Naso.

You know why you guys get so angry at me? Because deep down I speak truths...and my side keeps winning over yours.

Pretty sure people get angry at you because you're an obtuse, ignorant racist. But keep thinking what you want to think. It's certainly a pattern you're already quite familiar with.

Not a racist at all. I've been out with African American girls. The first person I voted for was an African American. I resent being called a racist.

[Reaganfan]

Oops BRB "The Factor begins right now!"

[Mr. Smith]

@Reagan: Really? You're using the "well I have friends that are black" excuse? Really?

If you use that excuse, then yeah, you kinda are racist.

To be fair, who isn't? We're all prejudiced people. But the difference between an anti-racist and a racist is the one who fights those impulses all the time in the pursuit of fairness and actual merit, and one who doesn't for whatever reasons.

And simply trying to say "Well I have friends that are black" as an end all is giving up the fight and in fact very ignorant.

[Reaganfan]

@Reagan: Really? You're using the "well I have friends that are black" excuse? Really?

If you use that excuse, then yeah, you kinda are racist.

To be fair, who isn't? We're all prejudiced people. But the difference between an anti-racist and a racist is the one who fights those impulses all the time in the pursuit of fairness and actual merit, and one who doesn't for whatever reasons.

And simply trying to say "Well I have friends that are black" as an end all is giving up the fight and in fact very ignorant.

So basically using your logic, I could have a black wife and interracially mixed children and because I vote for conservative Republicans I'd be a racist?

[Lief 🗽]

Well at least we gave Naso's side a good whupping in the Civil War.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Well at least we gave Naso's side a good whupping in the Civil War.

Would you say we spanked 'em?

[Reaganfan]

Well at least we gave Naso's side a good whupping in the Civil War.

The way you liberals act is like a child not getting their way.

[Rockefeller GOP]

Well at least we gave Naso's side a good whupping in the Civil War.

Would you say we spanked 'em?

Because everyone in the CSA was a political conservative and everyone in the North was a political liberal.  God, I swear you guys are all like 19 and have only taken a basic high school American history class when it comes to the Civil War.  You all sound really ignorant equating the Union with liberalism, it's the most laughably hackish thing I see here.

[Reaganfan]

Well at least we gave Naso's side a good whupping in the Civil War.

Would you say we spanked 'em?

Because everyone in the CSA was a political conservative and everyone in the North was a political liberal.  God, I swear you guys are all like 19 and have only taken a basic high school American history class when it comes to the Civil War.  You all sound really ignorant equating the Union with liberalism, it's the most laughably hackish thing I see here.

Bernie Goldberg just made a great point that the media and liberals are falsely trying to make this an issue about Civil Rights. It's not. As he just said on Fox News, "Ferguson is not Selma, it's 2014 and not 1965, and Michael Brown is not Emmett Till."

[Lief 🗽]

Well at least we gave Naso's side a good whupping in the Civil War.

Would you say we spanked 'em?

Because everyone in the CSA was a political conservative and everyone in the North was a political liberal.  God, I swear you guys are all like 19 and have only taken a basic high school American history class when it comes to the Civil War.  You all sound really ignorant equating the Union with liberalism, it's the most laughably hackish thing I see here.

The Union in the Civil War was arguably the most radical and progressive force in the entirety of American history, certainly the most radical and progressive government force. To ignore that basic truth of the war is ridiculous.

[Brittain33]

This thread is proving the flypaper theory correct.

[The Vorlon]

There is something of a point under his badly worded sentence. What the rioters are doing is enforcing the notion that these areas are lawless and that cops need to be especially vigilant while there. Thus, the public is willing to give cops more leeway in how they conduct themselves in black neighborhoods.

Yes, thanks for trying to make a point I made badly.

A jury looks at the totality of the situation and asks if the defendant behavior was that of a "reasonable person"

When you look at the riots and looting in Ferguson, its pretty easy for a jury to think a police officer in the African American areas is entirely "reasonable" to be on a very, very high state of alert and legitimately concerned for their own personal safety.

[krazen1211]

It is strange that some feel the need to stand up for the violent cigar thief over America's finest.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

http://theurbandaily.com/2014/11/25/bar-association-grand-jury-decision/

American Bar Association National Bar Association responds with "WTF?" to the decision to acquit considering the evidence presented, and asks that federal charges be filed.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Oh, great, krazen's take, just what this thread needed.

[Yelnoc]

Since quoting MLK is suddenly the thing to do, I thought I'd post this here.

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[Adam Griffin]

Well at least we gave Naso's side a good whupping in the Civil War.

Would you say we spanked 'em?

Because everyone in the CSA was a political conservative and everyone in the North was a political liberal.  God, I swear you guys are all like 19 and have only taken a basic high school American history class when it comes to the Civil War.  You all sound really ignorant equating the Union with liberalism, it's the most laughably hackish thing I see here.

The Union in the Civil War was arguably the most radical and progressive force in the entirety of American history, certainly the most radical and progressive government force. To ignore that basic truth of the war is ridiculous.

Indeed. It's amazing how people forget just how radically leftist (economically and by American standards, anyway) the Republican Party was from 1860 until about 1875, when the big business forces finally managed to quell its impulses.

In addition to that, yes: the North certainly was a socially liberal region by the day's standards, and the South was socially regressive. This broader theme has more or less been intact since the founding of our country.

[TNF]

The GOP of the 1850s to 1870s was really the only time a major American political party can, without any hesitation or hedging, be described as a party that fought for freedom.

[Modernity has failed us]

I just watched Wilson's interview and boy do I hope that dude gets his comeuppance someday. I've never seen someone act like a prick whilst also acting like a victim. Unbelievable.

[TNF]

I just watched Wilson's interview and boy do I hope that dude gets his comeuppance someday. I've never seen someone act like a prick whilst also acting like a victim. Unbelievable.

In a just world, Anonymous would release every detail about where he's living online and let the chips fall where they may.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

The GOP of the 1850s to 1870s was really the only time a major American political party can, without any hesitation or hedging, be described as a party that fought for freedom.

Quote for Truth. Imagine what America would be like today if Andy Johnson didn't exist to block Reconstruction. I certainly doubt we'd be seeing scenes like today...

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

http://theurbandaily.com/2014/11/25/bar-association-grand-jury-decision/

American Bar Association responds with "WTF?" to the decision to acquit considering the evidence presented, and asks that federal charges be filed.

That's actually the National Bar Association, an association of black lawyers.

[Eraserhead]

Haven't heard anything about rioting yet tonight. There just seems to be a whole bunch of peaceful protests. Perhaps the worst is over.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Haven't heard anything about rioting yet tonight. There just seems to be a whole bunch of peaceful protests. Perhaps the worst is over.

Well we had this: http://www.startribune.com/local/minneapolis/283891941.html

[RedSLC]

Didn't post here last night because of schoolwork but...wow. I know it's been said a billion times, but this thread is f*cking terrible.

And of course, the verdict, while terrible, wasn't surprising in the least. There is no victory in things like this.

I'd try to rebut Naso, but given that I'm a very left-wing atheist living in a very right-wing state, he's obviously not going to care about what I say. I'm not part of "real America".

Anyway, back to the case, this is firm evidence that "respect for the law and authority" is bullsh**t. I do what I beleive is the right thing to do, not what some goddamn law tells me.