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« on: November 25, 2014, 01:52:52 AM »

White people torching cars and vandalising crap after their sports team loses - "Ah, just a bunch of drunk people"

Black people doing same after a major miscarriage of justice - "OMFG BLACK CULTURE!!"
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2014, 10:03:07 PM »

The GOP of the 1850s to 1870s was really the only time a major American political party can, without any hesitation or hedging, be described as a party that fought for freedom.

Quote for Truth. Imagine what America would be like today if Andy Johnson didn't exist to block Reconstruction. I certainly doubt we'd be seeing scenes like today...
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2014, 12:05:15 PM »

The trouble with these sorts of situations is that the police don't particularly care to go after the thirty or so nuts who are smashing stuff up; and instead continue to apply pressure on the peaceful protesters; who are themselves further riled up. Both the police officers and protesters become irrational, angry and prone to bad decisions.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2014, 01:56:20 PM »

The trouble with these sorts of situations is that the police don't particularly care to go after the thirty or so nuts who are smashing stuff up; and instead continue to apply pressure on the peaceful protesters; who are themselves further riled up. Both the police officers and protesters become irrational, angry and prone to bad decisions.

It's incredibly difficult to successfully go after everyone who is smashing things up in these situations. I don't believe it is a matter of not particularly caring.

Oh yes, I was trying to imply that. It's human nature to avoid the dangerous, active elements of a riot and focus on the "potentially volatile" sectors. Just as it's human  nature to react with terror at a bunch of police in full riot gear yelling at you and pushing you against each other.

The riot was so predictable, especially with the prosecutor making such a big song and dance during his presentation. He must have known what he would provoke by his words. Blood. On. Hands
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2014, 02:02:29 PM »

Name them; because the vast majority of European forces do.

Well, they don't in ours do they? Only specialised firearms units have guns.

They are steadily increasing in London due to terrorism risks Sad I don't know how long the Peelite instinct of an unarmed police force can last against political pressure.
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2014, 02:10:48 PM »



They are steadily increasing in London due to terrorism risks Sad I don't know how long the Peelite instinct of an unarmed police force can last against political pressure.

They'll try for water cannon in a big way before trying that, I suspect. Which would still be a negative development.

Already got one. BoJo has promised to stand in front of it, but I doubt even that will happen :/

I think the police themselves keep voting down attempts to arm them.
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2014, 02:24:57 PM »


Thought that was still at the christmas wish list stage; must have missed that Sad

From what I know, Johnson decided to quickly jump into a bidding war that nobody else even entered. In his haste, he pre-empted Theresa May authorising their use on British soil; so we are now are essentially stuck with three water cannons we can't even use.
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