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« Reply #100 on: December 17, 2014, 06:04:55 PM »

My concern with that clause is that it takes an exclusively female space away from women. I'm especially concerned with like, bar bathrooms and other such places where sexual assaults might rise from this

Exactly.
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« Reply #101 on: December 17, 2014, 07:37:25 PM »

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« Reply #102 on: December 17, 2014, 07:51:00 PM »

Senators have 36 hours to object to JCL's amendment
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« Reply #103 on: December 17, 2014, 09:02:39 PM »

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« Reply #104 on: December 18, 2014, 08:29:01 AM »

Sorry Polnut, a vote isn't open at the moment Tongue

However, I'm going to object to JCL's amendment.

Senators a vote is now open on JCL's amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain
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« Reply #105 on: December 18, 2014, 09:32:00 AM »

Amendment is unfriendly.

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« Reply #106 on: December 18, 2014, 11:16:16 AM »

Nay

Also, this will probably lead to skyrocketing printing costs:
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« Reply #107 on: December 18, 2014, 01:36:55 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #108 on: December 18, 2014, 05:54:16 PM »

Sorry Polnut, a vote isn't open at the moment Tongue

However, I'm going to object to JCL's amendment.

Senators a vote is now open on JCL's amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain

Sorry - that was my objection... not a vote.
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« Reply #109 on: December 18, 2014, 08:34:17 PM »

NAY

I don't want to make the language section worse.


Also, I don't have a problem with requiring equal accomodations for LGBT. That said I think 3.1 is already dealt with though I guess that was unclear from the Mideast courtesy of no court case. Also 3.5 and 3.6 are concerning as well. I would vote for the amendment otherwise.

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« Reply #110 on: December 18, 2014, 08:38:47 PM »

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It is also an unfunded mandate.
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« Reply #111 on: December 19, 2014, 01:58:36 AM »

^ I find NCYankee's second amendment to address my concerns and I welcome his constructive participation to the collaboration process here
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« Reply #112 on: December 19, 2014, 11:18:24 AM »

Encouraging English amendment is hostile

Second proposed amendment is friendly
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« Reply #113 on: December 19, 2014, 01:18:06 PM »

Nay on JCL's amendment

JCL's amendment has enough votes to fail, senators have 24 hours to change their votes

Senators also have 36 hours to object to Yankee's second amendment, I'll open a vote on the first one once the JCL one is finished.

Finally, BK's amendment has passed
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« Reply #114 on: December 19, 2014, 05:33:57 PM »

I find Senator Yankee's amendments too adressing my concerns, so I support both of them.
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« Reply #115 on: December 20, 2014, 01:49:05 AM »

Aye on the amendment.

 Why should Arabic be recognized but not Hebrew? Section 2.1 must be eliminated before I'll even consider supporting this bill.  The government shouldn't be funding everyone having birth control. My tax dollars shouldn't be used to fund the consequences of a couples loose moral choices. With punishing those of us who don't want to find others having contraception. This should always be a choice of the couple with the monetary consequences for that individual couple. Don't put it on celibate singles, the lgbt, or those whose religious beliefs discourage the use of such products. There are religious rights that you guys are not considering in this case.
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« Reply #116 on: December 20, 2014, 02:09:46 AM »

Aye on the amendment.

 Why should Arabic be recognized but not Hebrew? Section 2.1 must be eliminated before I'll even consider supporting this bill.  The government shouldn't be funding everyone having birth control. My tax dollars shouldn't be used to fund the consequences of a couples loose moral choices. With punishing those of us who don't want to find others having contraception. This should always be a choice of the couple with the monetary consequences for that individual couple. Don't put it on celibate singles, the lgbt, or those whose religious beliefs discourage the use of such products. There are religious rights that you guys are not considering in this case.

No one is forcing contraception on those who don't want it.

Religious freedom is not an absolute right.
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« Reply #117 on: December 20, 2014, 05:05:08 PM »


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Senators a vote is now open on this amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain
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« Reply #118 on: December 20, 2014, 08:31:05 PM »

I am glad to see progress being made in here, but for the time being this still goes too far for me to consider signing it. Among other things, can we really afford to pay millions of people due to the slavery clause? Not to mention the nightmare that would be attempting to return enormous amounts of land and promoting such an impressive amount of languages (I hope Yankee's amendment passes).

Not to mention that the equal representation for certain groups and the respective quotas don't seem all that practical to me...
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« Reply #119 on: December 20, 2014, 09:58:26 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #120 on: December 21, 2014, 04:28:39 AM »

So is this a vote now on the bathroom amendment or the language amendment? Didn't Senator TNF say he was friendly with the bathroom amendment?
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« Reply #121 on: December 21, 2014, 07:30:46 AM »

This is on the bathroom amendment

Also, Aye
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« Reply #122 on: December 21, 2014, 10:19:44 AM »

Encouraging English amendment is hostile

Second proposed amendment is friendly

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« Reply #123 on: December 21, 2014, 10:23:37 AM »

We're voting on the wrong amendment, are we not?
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« Reply #124 on: December 21, 2014, 10:30:15 AM »

We're voting on the wrong amendment, are we not?

That's what I've been thinking as well...
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