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« Reply #200 on: January 11, 2015, 07:25:57 PM »

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« Reply #201 on: January 11, 2015, 08:30:17 PM »

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« Reply #202 on: January 12, 2015, 12:56:17 PM »

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« Reply #203 on: January 12, 2015, 01:05:49 PM »

This has enough votes to pass, senators have 24 hours to change their votes
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« Reply #204 on: January 12, 2015, 02:14:21 PM »

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« Reply #205 on: January 13, 2015, 02:47:15 AM »

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« Reply #206 on: January 13, 2015, 06:23:48 AM »

By a vote of 8-1 Cris's amendment has passed:

Aye: Yankee, Lief, Bore, Polnut, SWE, Windjammer, Cris, Cranberry

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« Reply #207 on: January 13, 2015, 11:32:04 AM »

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« Reply #208 on: January 13, 2015, 12:00:08 PM »
« Edited: January 14, 2015, 08:49:13 AM by Senator bore »

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« Reply #209 on: January 14, 2015, 08:55:14 AM »

Proposing another amendment:

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« Reply #210 on: January 14, 2015, 09:11:29 AM »

I'll support this.
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« Reply #211 on: January 15, 2015, 07:28:44 AM »

Amendment is friendly
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« Reply #212 on: January 15, 2015, 11:45:45 PM »

Sections 2(3) and 2(10) seem problematic (forgive me if someone has already brought up what I'm about to say.

Regarding section 2(3), I really feel like the bill should specify that we're talking about the same pay for the same position. If it ends up that there are a couple more male managers than female managers, it's not necessarily a result of discrimination. Yet, in total and on average, the company in question would probably be paying men more. That's not a crime, but the bill kind of makes it out like it is.

For 2(10), the blanket ban on requiring employees to remove facial hair should, I believe, include some exceptions. Fire fighters, for example, cannot wear their breathing equipment if they sport a long beard, so fire departments therefore require that facial hair is kept short. It's an important rule, yet this bill would complicate it unnecessarily.

Just thought I'd add my two cents.

And while I'm at it, I'll say that 3(5) should have a grace period. It basically demands that every building with public washrooms creates a third restroom for people who do not belong to the traditional binary gender system. That's ridiculously expensive and sometimes unfeasible. I appreciate where it's coming from, but I just don't know if it can work. Maybe we make it so that all new public facilities include a non-gender-conforming washroom?

That aside, I think this bill is shaping up nicely. I look forward to working with the regions to implement a reparations program for African-Atlasians. In fact, I think the senate should really consider extending this bill to include something on our indigenous population.
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« Reply #213 on: January 16, 2015, 01:30:23 PM »

Senators have 36 hours to object to bore's amendment



Thanks for your suggestions Hagrid, I think all three of those suggestions are good ones and should be implemented. The bill already mandates reparations for native atlasians as well as african atlasians, so that shouldn't need to be changed, though.
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« Reply #214 on: January 16, 2015, 08:21:04 PM »

Senators have 36 hours to object to bore's amendment



Thanks for your suggestions Hagrid, I think all three of those suggestions are good ones and should be implemented. The bill already mandates reparations for native atlasians as well as african atlasians, so that shouldn't need to be changed, though.

Oh, my bad. You're right! Totally missed it. Glad to see its inclusion.

Also, if any senators would be willing to sponsor an amendment on my behalf, I'll offer one shortly. Smiley
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« Reply #215 on: January 17, 2015, 02:25:08 AM »

I'll sponsor something for you Hagrid
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« Reply #216 on: January 17, 2015, 05:52:06 AM »

Your points seem sensible to me, Hagrid, so I'm looking forward to the amendment and will support it.
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« Reply #217 on: January 18, 2015, 09:11:40 PM »

Okay, here's something that addresses my first two concerns. I thought about adding the washrooms thing now, but I expect it'll be a bit more controversial, so maybe we should separate it from the easier stuff. If anyone wants to sponsor, go ahead. And if anyone thinks my ideas can be expressed in better language, make the change! But there ya go. Smiley

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« Reply #218 on: January 19, 2015, 09:53:12 AM »

Okay, here's something that addresses my first two concerns. I thought about adding the washrooms thing now, but I expect it'll be a bit more controversial, so maybe we should separate it from the easier stuff. If anyone wants to sponsor, go ahead. And if anyone thinks my ideas can be expressed in better language, make the change! But there ya go. Smiley

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« Reply #219 on: January 19, 2015, 12:26:16 PM »

Amendment is friendly
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« Reply #220 on: January 19, 2015, 01:25:55 PM »

Senators have 36 hours to object to windjammer's amendment
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« Reply #221 on: January 21, 2015, 09:29:57 AM »

Windjammer's amendment has passed

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« Reply #222 on: January 22, 2015, 08:48:55 AM »

So, once we address the toliet situation are we done here?
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« Reply #223 on: January 22, 2015, 10:35:22 AM »

Anyone have any suggestions for how to address that? I could come up with something, but I'm curious to hear if other people think it's an issue and have any practical ideas for smoothing it out.
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« Reply #224 on: January 22, 2015, 10:54:14 AM »

I am satisfied with having a final vote once that issue is resolved, yes.
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