Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Passed)

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This goes against religious freedoms and as such I will fight to destroy this.

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This goes against religious freedoms and as such I will fight to destroy this.

I don't like that 'religious freedom' is a convenient code word for permissible discrimination. But overall, this bill takes a good message, that we should embrace difference and reject intolerance and discrimination to an extreme.

I don't believe that can force tolerance, if it is enforced by law, then it's not real. We need to change people's minds through deed and words.

But this, if passed, would render preaching against homosexuality or abortion as criminal offenses worth taking away the right to keep and bear arms. TNF fails to realize this is a freedom of conscience issue. Atlasians of faith will not stand for their rights of religious conscience to be violated in such manner. The bill would force tolerance down people's throats.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

This goes against religious freedoms and as such I will fight to destroy this.

I don't like that 'religious freedom' is a convenient code word for permissible discrimination. But overall, this bill takes a good message, that we should embrace difference and reject intolerance and discrimination to an extreme.

I don't believe that can force tolerance, if it is enforced by law, then it's not real. We need to change people's minds through deed and words.

But this, if passed, would render preaching against homosexuality or abortion as criminal offenses worth taking away the right to keep and bear arms. TNF fails to realize this is a freedom of conscience issue. Atlasians of faith will not stand for their rights of religious conscience to be violated in such manner. The bill would force tolerance down people's throats.

You know how the saying goes - "one's freedom goes as far as it limits one other's". There is a difference between "religious freedom" and preaching against homosexuality or abortion. The latter is not religious freedom, it is bigotry and defamation.

When both homosexuality and abortion are specifically condemned as sinful by both Jewish and Christian texts, to deny the right to teach such is counter to religious teaching. Thus religious freedom would be violated and governmental persecution against Christians and those with similar views would cause something this government could never handle.

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I would just like to put out there that appeals to 'freedom of conscience' won't change my position on this, as I do not categorically believe in the 'freedom' of anyone to be a Nazi, Klansman, or bigot. The only freedom I believe in for those enemies of working class unity is the freedom to get the s**t beat out of them when they open their mouths and shout their bile from a loudspeaker.

You don't hear any of us on the right trying to deny communists like yourself freedom of speech. So who are you to deny free speech to your fellow Atlasians because of their ideological views. While I catagorically think communism is a flawed and failed method of governance and economic theory, I will never act to take away your political voice TNF for the simple reason that your individual voice will spark another leftist like mine will spark that of a conservatarian. 

Motion to table the entire bill effective upon the results of the outcome of the amendment vote.

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Aye for Senator bore's amendment


But yes, despite my remarks that I don't see any religious freedom in preaching against homosexuals or abortion, I am not the biggest fan of this, at least in the current stand. There are some parts I like, bit overall this gets to far. I'm sure however that there can be found a middle way which most are okay with.

I do see religious freedom in preaching against homosexuality and abortion. We don't preach against people. We preach against activities that will be destructive in this life and in the life to come. Do I need to site both Christian and Jewish scripture which condem both activities?

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Then my motion to table becomes active.

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Motion to table

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Aye to Windjammers amendment

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Aye on the amendment.

 Why should Arabic be recognized but not Hebrew? Section 2.1 must be eliminated before I'll even consider supporting this bill.  The government shouldn't be funding everyone having birth control. My tax dollars shouldn't be used to fund the consequences of a couples loose moral choices. With punishing those of us who don't want to find others having contraception. This should always be a choice of the couple with the monetary consequences for that individual couple. Don't put it on celibate singles, the lgbt, or those whose religious beliefs discourage the use of such products. There are religious rights that you guys are not considering in this case.

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Aye

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Amendment to be offered

Clause 1 of section 2 is hereby repealed

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Aye

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Aye

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This is injurious to religious freedom. Where are the reasonable accommodations for pastors preaching and laymen preaching what their religious conscience dictates without fear of governmental retaliation? They aren't there. Please reconsider this signature and redraft the bill with clauses protecting religious conscience and freedom.