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Figs
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« on: December 02, 2014, 03:31:08 PM »

By representing every state equally, regardless of population, the Senate actually is representative of a pseudo-nation with different demographic characteristics than the actual country. The pseudo-nation represented by the Senate is more white (non-Hispanic), less black and less Hispanic than the nation at large. This is likely not surprising. I haven't dug that far into the rest, but it would be interesting to see what other trends there are in the actual population versus the population implied by the Senate.
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Figs
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2014, 03:39:46 PM »

Article: "Oh no, us poor socialists can't get elected in Wyoming. Abolish the rules!"

Good contribution.
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Figs
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2014, 09:16:34 AM »

By representing every state equally, regardless of population, the Senate actually is representative of a pseudo-nation with different demographic characteristics than the actual country. The pseudo-nation represented by the Senate is more white (non-Hispanic), less black and less Hispanic than the nation at large. This is likely not surprising. I haven't dug that far into the rest, but it would be interesting to see what other trends there are in the actual population versus the population implied by the Senate.

And yet which chamber has actually passed a comprehensive bill on immigration?

The Senate was also the first chamber to pass the thirteenth amendment way back in the Civil War. Because of the Senate's nature, it is more willing to compromise because its purpose is as I said, designed to encourage states to join together to ensure each other's interests are protected and that instills a greater sense of comity then the majoritarian House has historically functioned as. The House is also far more partisan and far more political because it is up every two years instead of every six years.

Yeah, you're absolutely right about what chamber has passed what. I'm less interested in looking at and extrapolating things about the current membership of the Senate, as I am about looking at how the pseudo-population implied by the Senate twists the electorate around. There are few enough Senators that it's really easy to get seemingly anomalous or idiosyncratic results in reality.
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2014, 08:55:24 AM »

Where did I say Delware should be by county? I said Illinois, historically divided between two regions one of which has the power to dominate the other and cause its interests to be ignore would be better served with a legislature that balances the two regions (Chicago dominated House and Downstate dominated Senate).

This couches those two regions as equal and completely leaves aside the reason why one "dominates" the other: there are a whole lot more people there.
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