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« on: December 05, 2014, 01:39:43 AM »

A poll by the BioLogos Foundation which poll tests various nuances of people's beliefs on the origin of man, testing how certain people are about various propositions:

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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2014, 01:52:16 AM »

These results actually aren't as bad as I expected.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2014, 01:54:52 AM »

Like most things, America is a center-right nation until you get detailed in questions and widdle it down.
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2014, 06:36:15 AM »

I'm amused by the fact that, taking this poll at face value, there's a non-negligible number of people who think that humans evolved from non-human lifeforms *and* that Adam and Eve were real people.
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2014, 08:05:53 AM »
« Edited: December 07, 2014, 08:08:12 AM by DemPGH »

Overall it's a mixed bag, but I would have feared worse. Only 37% think God created the world in six 24 hour days (the Bible is pretty clear about that), but 51% think the Bible is without error? That doesn't square either, but if 51% think the Bible is without error, that's not good. Neither is 56% who think Adam and Eve were real people.

It isn't news that people don't think very hard about religion. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2014, 08:49:42 AM »

I'm amused by the fact that, taking this poll at face value, there's a non-negligible number of people who think that humans evolved from non-human lifeforms *and* that Adam and Eve were real people.
There are some who take the creation stories in Genesis in a semi-literal fashion and thus the "breath of life" wasn't God animating dirt, but God granting sentience to a pair of proto-humans and thus making them more than mere animals, and that it was from these proto-humans the sons of Adam found wives rather than some unnamed sisters.
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2014, 12:09:56 PM »

It's kind of scary that almost 20% of Americans believe that only creationism should be taught in schools.
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2014, 02:56:17 PM »

We Americans on the whole are becoming the great joke within both the Free World and the First World. We may be as few as five years of being simply a joke of both as we lose our freedom and our prosperity.
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2014, 03:04:07 PM »

We Americans on the whole are becoming the great joke within both the Free World and the First World. We may be as few as five years of being simply a joke of both as we lose our freedom and our prosperity.


Are you describing europe? Because europe is in a worse economic situation than america currently, private citizens can't own guns. And theres restrictions on free speech, even the act of offending somehow can get you arrested, especially in Britain.

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/13/jail-someone-for-being-offensive-twitter-facebook
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2014, 01:27:36 AM »

We Americans on the whole are becoming the great joke within both the Free World and the First World. We may be as few as five years of being simply a joke of both as we lose our freedom and our prosperity.


Are you describing europe? Because europe is in a worse economic situation than america currently, private citizens can't own guns. And theres restrictions on free speech, even the act of offending somehow can get you arrested, especially in Britain.

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/13/jail-someone-for-being-offensive-twitter-facebook

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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2014, 06:55:00 AM »

We Americans on the whole are becoming the great joke within both the Free World and the First World. We may be as few as five years of being simply a joke of both as we lose our freedom and our prosperity.


Are you describing europe? Because europe is in a worse economic situation than america currently, private citizens can't own guns. And theres restrictions on free speech, even the act of offending somehow can get you arrested, especially in Britain.

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/13/jail-someone-for-being-offensive-twitter-facebook

Your continued cluelessness is a real treat.
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2014, 07:16:17 AM »

Kraxner's right, I'm currently posting from prison for insulting Kate Middleton's fashion sense Sad If only I had listened!
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2014, 08:53:49 AM »
« Edited: December 09, 2014, 08:56:23 AM by pbrower2a »

About 40% of Americans accept young-earth creationism as fact. Such shows how backward much of America is. If people can believe young-earth creationism they can believe any propaganda.
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2014, 09:34:56 PM »

About 40% of Americans accept young-earth creationism as fact. Such shows how backward much of America is. If people can believe young-earth creationism they can believe any propaganda.

Believing humans came about in the past 10,000 years != believing the Earth came about in the past 10,000 years.  Most people who believe humans came about in the past 10,000 years still believe the Earth is billions of years old.
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2014, 09:45:21 PM »

About 40% of Americans accept young-earth creationism as fact. Such shows how backward much of America is. If people can believe young-earth creationism they can believe any propaganda.

Believing humans came about in the past 10,000 years != believing the Earth came about in the past 10,000 years.  Most people who believe humans came about in the past 10,000 years still believe the Earth is billions of years old.
I doubt it. It seems much more that likely that most creationists are also Biblical literalists who believe in a six-day creation, so the Earth being billions of years older than humans is a no-no.
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2014, 10:30:58 PM »

About 40% of Americans accept young-earth creationism as fact. Such shows how backward much of America is. If people can believe young-earth creationism they can believe any propaganda.

Believing humans came about in the past 10,000 years != believing the Earth came about in the past 10,000 years.  Most people who believe humans came about in the past 10,000 years still believe the Earth is billions of years old.
I doubt it. It seems much more that likely that most creationists are also Biblical literalists who believe in a six-day creation, so the Earth being billions of years older than humans is a no-no.

http://ncse.com/blog/2013/11/just-how-many-young-earth-creationists-are-there-us-0015164

80% of Americans agree with the statement that continents have been moving for millions of years and only 10% reject continential drift.

So this certainly provides evidence that believing in humans originating recently doesn't mean that one believes the Earth recently formed.
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2014, 11:48:27 PM »

About 40% of Americans accept young-earth creationism as fact. Such shows how backward much of America is. If people can believe young-earth creationism they can believe any propaganda.

Believing humans came about in the past 10,000 years != believing the Earth came about in the past 10,000 years.  Most people who believe humans came about in the past 10,000 years still believe the Earth is billions of years old.
I doubt it. It seems much more that likely that most creationists are also Biblical literalists who believe in a six-day creation, so the Earth being billions of years older than humans is a no-no.

http://ncse.com/blog/2013/11/just-how-many-young-earth-creationists-are-there-us-0015164

80% of Americans agree with the statement that continents have been moving for millions of years and only 10% reject continential drift.

So this certainly provides evidence that believing in humans originating recently doesn't mean that one believes the Earth recently formed.

I'd say it provides evidence that those who believe that continental drift occurs and that the earth has only been around a short period of time didn't have that option presented to them in the poll.  Continental drift is a a process that is going on today at an observable albeit slow pace.  Given a choice between an option you feel is half-right and one you feel is completely wrong, which would you pick as your answer?
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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2014, 12:39:26 AM »

We're down to 68% thinking God has anything to do with humanity?  Whoopie!  That's in line with about 3/10 being non-religiouses. 

But 56% think Adam and Eve were real people?  Ugh...
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