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« on: December 05, 2014, 01:38:54 PM »

This great article by Dylan Byers gives graphic detail of how Chris Hughes has almost single-handedly brought TNR down from prominence.

I, for one, will miss it. I thought that they had an excellent journalistic ethic and didn't stick to the party line. What do you guys think is the future of TNR?
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2014, 01:44:28 PM »
« Edited: December 05, 2014, 01:47:09 PM by traininthedistance »

This bit by Ezra Klein is a relevant counterpoint. (And also relevant to the "Opinion of Vox" thread from awhile ago, especially where he backhandedly admits that the structural pressures of internet journalism have forced them to go clickbaity... an aside that reads defensive as all hell but isn't really wrong in any meaningful sense.  Don't hate the players, hate the game.)

In any case, Mother Jones is probably the best of the policy mags at this point, though I'll admit that TNR had better culture coverage.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2014, 01:58:05 PM »

Good riddance.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2014, 01:59:22 PM »

TNR is a crazy magazine. I used to subscribe when I was younger, but it was so vehemently, insanely pro-Israel and pro-invading everything that it just didn't fit in with my views of the way the world worked.

I distinctly remembered this issue:



As the point when I gave up on the New Republic forever.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2014, 02:26:43 PM »

TNR is a crazy magazine. I used to subscribe when I was younger, but it was so vehemently, insanely pro-Israel and pro-invading everything that it just didn't fit in with my views of the way the world worked.

I distinctly remembered this issue:



As the point when I gave up on the New Republic forever.

I've never read it so I couldn't care less.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2014, 03:14:57 PM »

The Left weakens a little. Good good.
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2014, 12:14:09 AM »

This bit by Ezra Klein is a relevant counterpoint. (And also relevant to the "Opinion of Vox" thread from awhile ago, especially where he backhandedly admits that the structural pressures of internet journalism have forced them to go clickbaity... an aside that reads defensive as all hell but isn't really wrong in any meaningful sense.  Don't hate the players, hate the game.)

And Jonathan Chait offers a counterpoint to that counterpoint here:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/new-republic-and-the-imperfect-media-market.html

His point being....yes, The New Republic is losing money, but it's always lost money.  It's always relied on a wealthy benefactor to subsidize it so that it can continue its reporting, and there's no particular reason why that should change now.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2014, 12:55:32 AM »

The Venn Diagram of "People who read print newspapers/magazines" and "Self-described liberals" has been pulling away for years now.

That being said, The New Republic has always been the bottom rung of liberal magazines. Mother Jones, The Nation, Harper's, ect. are all better written and generally more liberal to boot, leaving New Republic without a real niche.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2014, 11:17:29 AM »

It's always relied on a wealthy benefactor to subsidize it so that it can continue its reporting, and there's no particular reason why that should change now.
 Perhaps such benefactors find other media properties more worthy of their subsidy?
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2014, 01:49:11 PM »

TNR is/was a very... strange... publication and in recent years it appears to have done a remarkable job of alienating its former readership, but its cultural stuff will be missed. What's more concerning though is that this is emblematic of a general trend in journalism, and a general trend that is not good.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2014, 03:38:22 PM »

It's always relied on a wealthy benefactor to subsidize it so that it can continue its reporting, and there's no particular reason why that should change now.
  Perhaps such benefactors find other media properties more worthy of their subsidy?

Which would prove...?

Would prove that there's no such thing as an essential media brand name.  I note that the general consensus here appears to be that as far as politics was concerned, TNR was already considered generally second tier and that it's main strength was cultural content.  But as culture continues to fractionate into smaller and smaller pieces, the idea that an omnibus magazine could hope to adequately cover it has become more and more absurd.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2014, 03:41:03 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2014, 03:44:53 PM »


Yeah, they burned some serious bridges there. The Iraq war had the largest protest in history, 20 million, before it started, but the worthless New Republic wasn't part of it.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2014, 04:25:30 PM »

Sad, was the best out there. Had a good run.
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