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Question: Should Mary Landrieu run for Governor?
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solarstorm
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« on: December 07, 2014, 12:13:53 AM »
With Mary Landrieu kind of having "overperformed" tonight, the question arises whether she should/will run for governor of Louisiana.
She'd have got 12 months to campaign throughout her home state, she could become a little more detached from Obama, and she could make use of today's kind-of momentum's energy. Plus, the current governor, whose name I forgot, is extremely unpopular.

However, her brother, who's the mayor of New Orleans, is said to run for governor, too. Plus I don't know if the governor's race also includes a jungle primary. If there's an intra-party primary, they'd better refrain from competing against each other; in a jungle primary, however, the rivalry shouldn't be that devastating.
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2014, 12:44:14 AM »
Yes- in 2019.

She needs a Brownback situation; she needs Vitter to win and overreach.
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2014, 11:52:46 AM »
No, aside from VA and FL and maybe NC, the South is gone.
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2014, 12:06:03 PM »
No. Incumbents shouldn't lose by 12. To say she "overperformed" is to frame the whole situation around bad polling, which is a mistake.
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2014, 04:03:19 PM »
« Edited: December 07, 2014, 04:10:06 PM by Frodo »
No, if anything she should try to win back her Senate seat in 2020, and let her brother run for governor instead in 2019.  
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2014, 04:26:20 PM »
Quote from: IDS Emperor Maxwell on December 07, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
No. Incumbents shouldn't lose by 12. To say she "overperformed" is to frame the whole situation around bad polling, which is a mistake.

Right-wing excuses for Cassidy's horrible showing...delicious...
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2014, 04:51:12 PM »
Quote from: KCDem on December 07, 2014, 04:26:20 PM
Quote from: IDS Emperor Maxwell on December 07, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
No. Incumbents shouldn't lose by 12. To say she "overperformed" is to frame the whole situation around bad polling, which is a mistake.

Right-wing excuses for Cassidy's horrible showing...delicious...

So your whole "Landrieu gonna lose by 30" shtick was just a dumb attempt to try to raise expectations for her in the hope that this would make her eventual performance seem good?
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2014, 04:57:21 PM »
Quote from: KCDem on December 07, 2014, 04:26:20 PM
Quote from: IDS Emperor Maxwell on December 07, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
No. Incumbents shouldn't lose by 12. To say she "overperformed" is to frame the whole situation around bad polling, which is a mistake.

Right-wing excuses for Cassidy's horrible showing...delicious...

Who is going to be Senator in January? Landrieu or Cassidy?
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2014, 04:58:32 PM »
Quote from: Nichlemn on December 07, 2014, 04:51:12 PM
Quote from: KCDem on December 07, 2014, 04:26:20 PM
Quote from: IDS Emperor Maxwell on December 07, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
No. Incumbents shouldn't lose by 12. To say she "overperformed" is to frame the whole situation around bad polling, which is a mistake.

Right-wing excuses for Cassidy's horrible showing...delicious...

So your whole "Landrieu gonna lose by 30" shtick was just a dumb attempt to try to raise expectations for her in the hope that this would make her eventual performance seem good?

To be fair, KCDem wasn't the only one saying that. FiveThirtyEight wrote an article saying it was very possible Landrieu could make the top 10 worst defeats (meaning a loss of 20+ points).
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2014, 05:10:25 PM »
Quote from: IceSpear on December 07, 2014, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: Nichlemn on December 07, 2014, 04:51:12 PM
Quote from: KCDem on December 07, 2014, 04:26:20 PM
Quote from: IDS Emperor Maxwell on December 07, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
No. Incumbents shouldn't lose by 12. To say she "overperformed" is to frame the whole situation around bad polling, which is a mistake.

Right-wing excuses for Cassidy's horrible showing...delicious...

So your whole "Landrieu gonna lose by 30" shtick was just a dumb attempt to try to raise expectations for her in the hope that this would make her eventual performance seem good?

To be fair, KCDem wasn't the only one saying that. FiveThirtyEight wrote an article saying it was very possible Landrieu could make the top 10 worst defeats (meaning a loss of 20+ points).

I'm not saying otherwise, rather that it seemed odd that after being so bullish on Dems, he would suddenly go incredibly bearish on Landrieu. The sudden reversal to "but expectaaaaaaations" makes it seem as if it was intentional.
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2014, 05:12:40 PM »
Quote from: IDS Emperor Maxwell on December 07, 2014, 04:57:21 PM
Quote from: KCDem on December 07, 2014, 04:26:20 PM
Quote from: IDS Emperor Maxwell on December 07, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
No. Incumbents shouldn't lose by 12. To say she "overperformed" is to frame the whole situation around bad polling, which is a mistake.

Right-wing excuses for Cassidy's horrible showing...delicious...

Who is going to be Senator in January? Landrieu or Cassidy?

An embarrassed Cassidy. If I were him, I would be ashamed to show my face on the floor of the chamber.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2014, 05:34:13 PM »
Quote from: KCDem on December 07, 2014, 05:12:40 PM
Quote from: IDS Emperor Maxwell on December 07, 2014, 04:57:21 PM
Quote from: KCDem on December 07, 2014, 04:26:20 PM
Quote from: IDS Emperor Maxwell on December 07, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
No. Incumbents shouldn't lose by 12. To say she "overperformed" is to frame the whole situation around bad polling, which is a mistake.

Right-wing excuses for Cassidy's horrible showing...delicious...

Who is going to be Senator in January? Landrieu or Cassidy?

An embarrassed Cassidy. If I were him, I would be ashamed to show my face on the floor of the chamber.

Yeah, beating an incumbent Senator by 12 points is so embarassing Roll Eyes
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2014, 05:37:52 PM »
Quote from: KCDem on December 07, 2014, 05:12:40 PM
Quote from: IDS Emperor Maxwell on December 07, 2014, 04:57:21 PM
Quote from: KCDem on December 07, 2014, 04:26:20 PM
Quote from: IDS Emperor Maxwell on December 07, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
No. Incumbents shouldn't lose by 12. To say she "overperformed" is to frame the whole situation around bad polling, which is a mistake.

Right-wing excuses for Cassidy's horrible showing...delicious...

Who is going to be Senator in January? Landrieu or Cassidy?

An embarrassed Cassidy. If I were him, I would be ashamed to show my face on the floor of the chamber.

"Look at this loser. ONLY defeated a three term incumbent by 12%. Underperforming Romney by over  1%!"

I suppose Elizabeth Warren should have withdrawn from society after she underperformed Obama by 7 points, right?
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2014, 07:58:46 PM »
Yes, perhaps the best candidate to beat Vitter?
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2014, 08:11:45 PM »
No, at least not in 2015.  She would lose badly.
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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2014, 10:20:05 PM »
She should not run again this soon if you ask me.
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2014, 10:25:51 PM »
Quote from: Miles on December 07, 2014, 12:44:14 AM
Yes- in 2019.

She needs a Brownback situation; she needs Vitter to win and overreach.

That's interesting.  Have two U.S. Senators who previously served together ever faced-off in a gubernatorial contest?
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2014, 10:12:10 AM »
Quote from: KCDem on December 07, 2014, 04:26:20 PM
Quote from: IDS Emperor Maxwell on December 07, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
No. Incumbents shouldn't lose by 12. To say she "overperformed" is to frame the whole situation around bad polling, which is a mistake.

Right-wing excuses for Cassidy's horrible showing...delicious...

Defeating a longterm incumbent is a "horrible showing"?
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2014, 04:08:22 PM »
Sure, if she wants to lose again.
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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2014, 04:14:43 PM »
You guys really need to stop taking anything KCDem says seriously.
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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2014, 04:48:56 PM »
Quote from: Del Tachi on December 08, 2014, 10:25:51 PM
Quote from: Miles on December 07, 2014, 12:44:14 AM
Yes- in 2019.

She needs a Brownback situation; she needs Vitter to win and overreach.

That's interesting.  Have two U.S. Senators who previously served together ever faced-off in a gubernatorial contest?

I'm pretty sure it has happened in Virginia.
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« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2014, 05:21:44 PM »
Quote from: Landrieu for Governor on December 09, 2014, 04:48:56 PM
Quote from: Del Tachi on December 08, 2014, 10:25:51 PM
Quote from: Miles on December 07, 2014, 12:44:14 AM
Yes- in 2019.

She needs a Brownback situation; she needs Vitter to win and overreach.

That's interesting.  Have two U.S. Senators who previously served together ever faced-off in a gubernatorial contest?

I'm pretty sure it has happened in Virginia.

It was the opposite in VA: 2008 and 2012 each had two former Governors running against eachother for Senate.
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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2014, 06:35:04 AM »
Landrieu had a very bad luck, running in such a year as 2014.

Louisiana gubernatorial elections, on the other hand, are held in an off-year, which makes it much less likely to be influenced by any national wave. So, under right local circumstances, she would made a formidable candidate.
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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2014, 02:40:54 PM »
I think Mitch is the Landrieu who's going to have to carry Louisiana Dems on his back now; I'd like to see him run for Governor or other statewide office. 
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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2014, 08:18:23 PM »
Quote from: How Erg the Self-Inducting Slew a Paleface on December 10, 2014, 06:35:04 AM
Landrieu had a very bad luck, running in such a year as 2014.

Louisiana gubernatorial elections, on the other hand, are held in an off-year, which makes it much less likely to be influenced by any national wave. So, under right local circumstances, she would made a formidable candidate.

Exactly!

Does anybody know if the gubernatorial election consists of a jungle primary, too?
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