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WillipsBrighton
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« on: December 08, 2014, 01:24:07 PM »
« edited: December 08, 2014, 01:26:12 PM by Famous Mortimer »

It's not really in the interest of adult immigrants to learn the language of their new country. That's the case in the United States, at least. Employers here hire immigrants who don't speak English because they can make them work more and for less money. If they learned English, they would be on equal pegging with every native speaker.

If you don't speak the language, you're pretty much guaranteed to get a crap job (and some of those crap jobs, like janitor, aren't even really that crap) vs. if you know the language, you're competing with everyone else for the few remaining office jobs in existence. 
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WillipsBrighton
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2014, 01:37:44 AM »

The difference is that the Jews were generally alright financially.

Current immigrants are almost entirely poorer if not impoverished.

By not assimilating, while they may moderately improve their own economic standing, they lower everyone else's.

Germany is a nice country, it's harder to stay that way if it imports large chunks of Turkey (not a nice country). The end result is going to be somewhere between Germany and Turkey, ie, not as nice as before.
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WillipsBrighton
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2014, 02:47:26 AM »

Germany is nicer than Turkey. This is evidenced by the fact that massive numbers of Turks want to live in Germany but not vice verca.
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WillipsBrighton
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2014, 06:00:22 AM »
« Edited: December 10, 2014, 06:07:52 AM by Famous Mortimer »

Immigration had no effect on our superpower status, it was WWII that did that and by that time, we had basically disallowed mass immigration.

The era of immigration you refer to was The Gilded Age. It was not a good time in general and it's very odd to see a left-winger holding it up as something positive to be emulated.
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WillipsBrighton
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2014, 06:26:47 AM »

All of the benefits America has gotten from immigration are actually just the "benefits" of cheap labor.
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WillipsBrighton
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2014, 06:39:38 PM »

I didn't say "all Jews are rich" I said generally Jews are not impoverished like semi-literate Middle Easterners. I will stand by that statement.
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WillipsBrighton
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2014, 10:38:39 PM »

Monolingualism is objectively inferior to multilingualism if the one language isn't the language that everyone else around you speaks.

I do think ag made fair points about speaking at home though.
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