Michigan House passes bill legalizing religious discrimination

[Lief 🗽]

http://www.newnownext.com/michigan-house-passed-bill-allowing-emts-to-refuse-treatment-to-gay-people/12/2014/

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Republicans are disgusting, exhibit #483830410.

[KCDem]

Republicans hate people. News at 11.

[user12345]

Gov. Snyder will probably veto it, if the controversy over it doesn't stop it from passing the Senate first.

[AggregateDemand]

If someone doesn't understand how the remedy of specific performance works, they need not burden the rest of society with their moral pronouncements.

[TDAS04]

http://www.newnownext.com/michigan-house-passed-bill-allowing-emts-to-refuse-treatment-to-gay-people/12/2014/

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Republicans are disgusting, exhibit #483830410.

Disgusting indeed.

[Landslide Lyndon]

If someone doesn't understand how the remedy of specific performance works, they need not burden the rest of society with their moral pronouncements.

You forgot to post your lucky numbers.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Gov. Snyder, please do us all a favor and veto this ridiculous, far-right, bigoted law.

[Smash255]

Truly horrible, but sadly considering what dominates Republican legislatures, not surprising.

[SteveRogers]

If someone doesn't understand how the remedy of specific performance works, they need not burden the rest of society with their moral pronouncements.

Stop. Contract law isn't some magic wand, and it doesn't govern 90% of the interactions you will have with people and businesses in an average week.

[IceSpear]

This was the law that was too bigoted for even Kansas and Arizona. Aren't there supposed to be more "moderate Republicans" in places like Michigan and Nevada?

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

Rick Synder shall veto the bill, no worries.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

But guys, the gays can just call a different ambulance if the one they get is too homophobic. It's the magic of the free market!

[Deus Naturae]

But guys, the gays can just call a different ambulance if the one they get is too homophobic. It's the magic of the free market!

Hospitals don't allow ambulance workers to decide things like that based on their personal beliefs. Would this bill prevent hospitals from firing workers who refused to serve gays? If so, the bill itself is a restriction on the free market.

[CountryClassSF]

Congrats to MI House for standing up against the gay lobby and for 1st amendment. I highly doubt this bill would deny medical treatment to anyone.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Congrats to MI House for standing up against the gay gestapo and for 1st amendment. I highly doubt this bill would deny medical treatment to anyone.

We prefer the term "Gaystapo", thank you very much.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Congrats to MI House for standing up against the gay gestapo and for 1st amendment. I highly doubt this bill would deny medical treatment to anyone.

Aren't you gay?

[7,052,770]

Congrats to MI House for standing up against the gay gestapo and for 1st amendment. I highly doubt this bill would deny medical treatment to anyone.

I realize this is cliche, but what if you were the one in trouble and the "Christian" EMT let you die?

[AggregateDemand]

Stop. Contract law isn't some magic wand, and it doesn't govern 90% of the interactions you will have with people and businesses in an average week.

That's nice, but in the real world same-sex couples sue bakers for specific performance.

This isn't the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s South. Bigot enslavement is not an appropriate remedy, especially since personal services and non-fungible goods are usually exempt, and specific performance isn't necessary in most of these discrimination cases. Furthermore, homosexuals should have the right to refuse bigoted religious customers.

Anything that restricts the law of specific performance is in our best interest, even if political hacks feign Christian virtue to appease their constituency. 

[Landslide Lyndon]

Congrats to MI House for standing up against the gay gestapo and for 1st amendment. I highly doubt this bill would deny medical treatment to anyone.

Aren't you gay?

A more pertinent question would be "whose sock are you?".

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This was the law that was too bigoted for even Kansas and Arizona. Aren't there supposed to be more "moderate Republicans" in places like Michigan and Nevada?

The last election probably emboldened Republicans. Of course moderate Republicans don't exist.

[SteveRogers]

That's nice, but in the real world same-sex couples sue bakers for specific performance.

This isn't the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s South. Bigot enslavement is not an appropriate remedy, especially since personal services and non-fungible goods are usually exempt, and specific performance isn't necessary in most of these discrimination cases. Furthermore, homosexuals should have the right to refuse bigoted religious customers.

Anything that restricts the law of specific performance is in our best interest, even if political hacks feign Christian virtue to appease their constituency. 

As you indicated in your original post, specific performance is just a type of remedy, not a cause of action. Its availability or unavailability in specific types of lawsuits has nothing to do with this Michigan bill. The bill would  prevent gay couples from bringing discrimination-related suits seeking monetary damages or any other type of relief.

[Adam Griffin]

This was the law that was too bigoted for even Kansas and Arizona. Aren't there supposed to be more "moderate Republicans" in places like Michigan and Nevada?

And Georgia, with a constitutional super-majority Republican legislature at that.

[pbrower2a]

This was the law that was too bigoted for even Kansas and Arizona. Aren't there supposed to be more "moderate Republicans" in places like Michigan and Nevada?

Michigan Republicans are just as right-wing as those anywhere else -- even Alabama.

The GOP has gone from being the Party of Lincoln to being the Party of... Mussolini.

[AggregateDemand]

As you indicated in your original post, specific performance is just a type of remedy, not a cause of action. Its availability or unavailability in specific types of lawsuits has nothing to do with this Michigan bill. The bill would  prevent gay couples from bringing discrimination-related suits seeking monetary damages or any other type of relief.

What monetary damages exist, other than someone wishing to impose punitive measures? If someone causes actually monetary damages, it will be related to another contractual/criminal concept, not anti-discrimination.

The only thing this bill does is stop the judiciary from improperly enslaving citizens for political gain or under political duress. Specific-performance made sense during the civil rights movement to eliminate segregation. There is no segregation of homosexuals, and specific performance is not a proper remedy in most instances.

Everyone wins when the legislature restricts the judiciary's powers of specific performance.

[Smash255]

As you indicated in your original post, specific performance is just a type of remedy, not a cause of action. Its availability or unavailability in specific types of lawsuits has nothing to do with this Michigan bill. The bill would  prevent gay couples from bringing discrimination-related suits seeking monetary damages or any other type of relief.

What monetary damages exist, other than someone wishing to impose punitive measures? If someone causes actually monetary damages, it will be related to another contractual/criminal concept, not anti-discrimination.

The only thing this bill does is stop the judiciary from improperly enslaving citizens for political gain or under political duress. Specific-performance made sense during the civil rights movement to eliminate segregation. There is no segregation of homosexuals, and specific performance is not a proper remedy in most instances.

Everyone wins when the legislature restricts the judiciary's powers of specific performance.

The only ones that win when you legally allow discrimination are bigots.