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« on: December 10, 2014, 05:55:05 PM »

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The debate timing rules for the budget are different from those for ordinary legislation.  Debate time on the budget shall be unlimited.  Debate shall be deemed over when a motion for cloture has been passed by a majority of all voting representatives. 

Though he is not required to do so, I encourage Governor Talleyrand to speak on behalf of his budget and explain his budget priorities.

The floor is open for debate.
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2014, 06:53:39 PM »

Excuse the delay - never got the estimates I needed for the new materials (FCF/DRF funds) so I had to calculate them on my own last night.

Not much changes here - just adding the necessary funds and taking away the already-repealed Northeast Healthy Skin Act's provision here. I think we all can agree that this is a reasonable budget for the session.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2014, 11:29:12 PM »

I'm relatively good with this budget.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2014, 04:29:48 PM »

I appreciate that you took the initiative of doing this sawx, but perhaps it'd be advisable to get a definite revenue projection from the GM?

Also budgets last for four months, I believe.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2014, 04:33:45 PM »

I appreciate that you took the initiative of doing this sawx, but perhaps it'd be advisable to get a definite revenue projection from the GM?

Also budgets last for four months, I believe.

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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2014, 07:40:43 PM »

I appreciate that you took the initiative of doing this sawx, but perhaps it'd be advisable to get a definite revenue projection from the GM?

Also budgets last for four months, I believe.

Alright, reverse order:

1. Article 3, Section 10 of the Northeast Constitution states that "the Governor is obligated to present the Legislative Assembly a budget for their term." Since I'm not a part of the Assembly or a I'm interpreting this as a two-month plan.

2. I tried to get an estimate from Dr. Cynic, and he referred me to Flo. Flo said he needed a bit of help getting this estimate done about a week ago, and since it still wasn't done and our government is very close to shutting down, I decided to create my own estimates.
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2014, 08:34:10 PM »

It's 4 months (the length of your term). Go back and look and see how every other Governor has approached it.

Also...Flo?

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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2014, 08:59:09 PM »
« Edited: December 12, 2014, 09:02:22 PM by Sawx, King in the North »

It's 4 months (the length of your term). Go back and look and see how every other Governor has approached it.

Also...Flo?



...yeah, and the Assembly is a singular body anyways, so my interpretation makes no grammatical sense in the first place.

I'm a dumbass. Sorry, Cynic and Flo.
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2014, 06:08:56 PM »

I'm quite happy to see the budget out here, but we've gone plenty of times without one before.  When I was in the Assembly in 2012, I made a point of passing CR's to keep the government running while we got the budget through, but that really up to the Assembly now if they view it as that crucial of a situation.
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2014, 07:25:57 PM »

It's 4 months (the length of your term). Go back and look and see how every other Governor has approached it.

Also...Flo?



...yeah, and the Assembly is a singular body anyways, so my interpretation makes no grammatical sense in the first place.

I'm a dumbass. Sorry, Cynic and Flo.

Flo told me that he was able to do the figures with the help of someone else who was willing to help, so I naturally referred Sawx in that direction since I'm horrible with that sort of thing.
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2014, 07:37:45 PM »

I'm quite happy to see the budget out here, but we've gone plenty of times without one before.  When I was in the Assembly in 2012, I made a point of passing CR's to keep the government running while we got the budget through, but that really up to the Assembly now if they view it as that crucial of a situation.

Yeah, we'll update it as we go. Turns out my constitutional interpretation was literally based off of bad grammar, so we can take however long as we please to pass one.
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2014, 10:00:32 PM »

Does the STEM Cell Research Act mandate state funding for embryonic stem cell research in addition to adult stem cell research? I cannot seem to find a transcript of it, unless it is an alternate name for this. Either way, I will not vote for a budget that finances embryonic stem cell research.
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2014, 07:08:49 AM »

Does the STEM Cell Research Act mandate state funding for embryonic stem cell research in addition to adult stem cell research? I cannot seem to find a transcript of it, unless it is an alternate name for this. Either way, I will not vote for a budget that finances embryonic stem cell research.

Might be that, but I won't vote for a bill that repeals stem cell funding. Research like this is vital to our future.
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2014, 09:46:02 AM »

There was stem cell research bill in May 2013.

Link to the amended bill the assembly voted on:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=173096.msg3721297#msg3721297
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2014, 10:31:50 AM »

There was stem cell research bill in May 2013.

Link to the amended bill the assembly voted on:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=173096.msg3721297#msg3721297

We need to keep this.
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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2014, 12:21:22 AM »


Agreed. I will be pushing to keep stem cell research in our budget.
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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2014, 04:57:37 PM »

I call for a motion of cloture.
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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2014, 06:03:34 PM »
« Edited: December 21, 2014, 07:21:15 PM by Barnes »

Seeing as it's not specifically outlined in the SOAP, looking at previous procedure, it seems that once a motion for cloture is made, the vote begins immediately.

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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2014, 06:56:41 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2014, 09:31:54 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2014, 04:48:20 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2014, 12:19:45 AM »

Cloture now has a majority of votes from Representatives of the Assembly. We can move on to the final vote, although I will wait for someone to second the motion.
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« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2014, 12:21:53 AM »

I second the motion.
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« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2014, 04:03:55 PM »

We now move onto a final vote. The voting period lasts 48 hours or until all representatives have voted.
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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2014, 07:24:18 PM »

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