NE2: Amendment to The Peace, Love, and Blessings Act (Failed)
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« on: December 10, 2014, 06:00:42 PM »
« edited: December 23, 2014, 04:40:30 PM by SWE, Senator-Elect »

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Debate on this bill will last for 72 hours, or until 5:59 PM on Saturday, December 13, unless otherwise modified or extended. The sponsor has 36 hours to advocate for this proposed legislation. If he does not, this bill will be tabled as there is other pending legislation in the queue.
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2014, 09:12:28 PM »

I will vote against this, since I believe marriage should exclusively be defined and promoted as a union between one man and one woman.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2014, 11:26:11 PM »

Why do we need this? Why do we need to specify how marriage is taught when there is a law that already says what is legal and illegal?
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2014, 11:13:50 PM »

I don't particulaly see the reason for schools discussing marriage in general. It's not the state's responsibility to impart lifestyles onto its citizens - especially while they are in school when they are developing as individuals. The expecption of course being when the state has a real need to avert negative behavior that would have a dangerous impact on the safety community as a whole.

That being said, I suppose there is a case to ensure that students are informed of the actual legal situation in this issues, but I don't know if this is the proper field to do so.
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2014, 11:43:51 AM »

I don't particulaly see the reason for schools discussing marriage in general. It's not the state's responsibility to impart lifestyles onto its citizens - especially while they are in school when they are developing as individuals. The expecption of course being when the state has a real need to avert negative behavior that would have a dangerous impact on the safety community as a whole.

That being said, I suppose there is a case to ensure that students are informed of the actual legal situation in this issues, but I don't know if this is the proper field to do so.

I think legislating the specifics of what schools should or should not teach is an overreach on our part. I think teaching students about social institutions is fine -- just like teaching students about Islam, Christianity, Judiasm...etc, is also fine.

Of course, I think the curriculum should be relevant to the class, but this seems like something that can be handled on the local level. It doesn't merit regional attention or action.
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2014, 12:38:10 PM »

Why do we need this? Why do we need to specify how marriage is taught when there is a law that already says what is legal and illegal?

In all fairness, I drafted this as a response to the Mideast Hate Bill way back when that was a thing.

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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2014, 12:19:50 AM »

We're a nearly a week behind on this bill as well. I move that we proceed to a final vote immediately.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2014, 10:06:38 AM »

Agreed
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2014, 03:28:44 PM »

We need a speaker first
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2014, 03:32:52 PM »


Not to be impertinent, but you were elected Speaker yesterday.
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2014, 09:05:40 AM »

We had a vote? I thought we just voted on moving the SOAP changes to the top of the queue?
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2014, 09:09:37 AM »

Debate over. Please vote. You have the amount of time designated in the SOAP (I'll look later).
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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2014, 12:22:51 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2014, 01:37:13 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2014, 01:47:19 PM »

Aye.

My earlier points are still held, but I also have no interest in teaching the civil and legal union of two persons to be a religious institution. That's what Sunday School is for.
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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2014, 04:58:02 PM »

Note: This vote is open for 48 hours from my initial post saying voting was open -- or until all representatives have voted.
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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2014, 05:04:13 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2014, 04:07:08 PM »

By a 3-1 margin, the "nay's" have it, and the Amendment to The Peace, Love, and Blessings Act has failed.

Napoleon has missed this vote.

SWE, please close this thread.
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