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« on: December 11, 2014, 07:00:07 PM »
« edited: December 14, 2014, 03:19:10 PM by Oak Hills »

Why do we seem not to have a thread about this already?

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/226843-funding-bill-struggles-for-votes
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More details about provisions in the bill that have aroused liberal opposition: http://thehill.com/regulation/finance/226658-five-things-that-could-sink-spending-bill
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2014, 07:02:40 PM »

Wait the government shuts down tonight at midnight?
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2014, 07:06:47 PM »

Wait the government shuts down tonight at midnight?

If they don't pass anything.
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2014, 07:08:56 PM »

RIP US government
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2014, 07:09:18 PM »
« Edited: December 11, 2014, 07:13:52 PM by Likely Voter »

Assuming Pelosi releases her caucus to vote as they wish, then the Bill clearly doesn't need the liberal Dems to put it over the top. It just needs a handful, which Obama/The White House can surely whip up.
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2014, 07:18:23 PM »

Passing a bill to fund the government should not be an ordeal, our government is barely functioning at best.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2014, 07:18:36 PM »

Assuming Pelosi releases her caucus to vote as they wish, then the Bill clearly doesn't need the liberal Dems to put it over the top. It just needs a handful, which Obama/The White House can surely whip up.

Why would Obama and the Democrats want to save Bhoener's skin, again?
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2014, 07:20:59 PM »

Assuming Pelosi releases her caucus to vote as they wish, then the Bill clearly doesn't need the liberal Dems to put it over the top. It just needs a handful, which Obama/The White House can surely whip up.

Why would Obama and the Democrats want to save Bhoener's skin, again?
They'll get blamed if they're the ones who vote down the bill. I'd vote against it myself but from the perspective of success in the court of public opinion, it isn't in their interest to oppose this.
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2014, 07:26:20 PM »

Assuming Pelosi releases her caucus to vote as they wish, then the Bill clearly doesn't need the liberal Dems to put it over the top. It just needs a handful, which Obama/The White House can surely whip up.

Why would Obama and the Democrats want to save Bhoener's skin, again?
They'll get blamed if they're the ones who vote down the bill. I'd vote against it myself but from the perspective of success in the court of public opinion, it isn't in their interest to oppose this.
I'm not so sure they'd get all the blame.  After all, Republicans have the majority and should be able to pass a bill on their own.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2014, 07:28:31 PM »

Not the bill I would have wanted, but far better than a shutdown.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2014, 07:28:58 PM »

Didn't Boehner say they'd just pass a short term funding bill if this one fails?
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2014, 07:31:06 PM »

Didn't Boehner say they'd just pass a short term funding bill if this one fails?
Yes, assuming that can pass the house.
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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2014, 07:37:23 PM »

The Obama admin figures this is better than any deal they can get with the next Congress, even if there are a few thing in it they don't like, including the stuff Warren is pissed about. And they don't want a shut down as that is just bad for the Country and hurts all parties politically. if the Dems saw that a shut down would be a big political winner, then Obama, Reed and Pelosi could easily make it happen.
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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2014, 08:04:00 PM »

Is there an article listing all the various provisions? This is the closest I could find:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/12/09/whats-in-the-spending-bill-we-skim-it-so-you-dont-have-to/
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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2014, 08:54:31 PM »

Assuming Pelosi releases her caucus to vote as they wish, then the Bill clearly doesn't need the liberal Dems to put it over the top. It just needs a handful, which Obama/The White House can surely whip up.

Why would Obama and the Democrats want to save Bhoener's skin, again?
They'll get blamed if they're the ones who vote down the bill. I'd vote against it myself but from the perspective of success in the court of public opinion, it isn't in their interest to oppose this.

Because the last shutdown worked out so badly for the Republican Party in this year's elections.
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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2014, 09:00:26 PM »

Assuming Pelosi releases her caucus to vote as they wish, then the Bill clearly doesn't need the liberal Dems to put it over the top. It just needs a handful, which Obama/The White House can surely whip up.

Why would Obama and the Democrats want to save Bhoener's skin, again?
They'll get blamed if they're the ones who vote down the bill. I'd vote against it myself but from the perspective of success in the court of public opinion, it isn't in their interest to oppose this.

Because the last shutdown worked out so badly for the Republican Party in this year's elections.
I didn't say it would hurt them in 2016, just that they would get the blame, plus they'd be blamed more so than the GOP in 2013 considering the Dems are a minority in both houses whereas the GOP was only a minority in the Senate.
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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2014, 09:01:46 PM »

Assuming Pelosi releases her caucus to vote as they wish, then the Bill clearly doesn't need the liberal Dems to put it over the top. It just needs a handful, which Obama/The White House can surely whip up.

Why would Obama and the Democrats want to save Bhoener's skin, again?
They'll get blamed if they're the ones who vote down the bill. I'd vote against it myself but from the perspective of success in the court of public opinion, it isn't in their interest to oppose this.
I'm not so sure they'd get all the blame.  After all, Republicans have the majority and should be able to pass a bill on their own.
They have a a majority, but not a veto-proof majority. Lyndon seemed to be implying that the Obama administration should oppose the bill.
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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2014, 09:16:10 PM »

Shut the f**ker down. Deregulation is not an option.
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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2014, 09:31:07 PM »


That's the best one I've seen.  Thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2014, 09:31:31 PM »
« Edited: December 11, 2014, 09:35:43 PM by wifikitten »

I don't want the shut down but I really don't want less restrictions on campaign donations, less funding for the EPA or not allowing DC to legalize marijuana. If it does shut down at least it will be for a respectable reason.
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2014, 09:34:08 PM »

I don't want the shut down or less restrictions on campaign donations. If it does shut down at least it will be for a respectable reason.

I do. Every "Democrat" in the House who voted for this (who didn't get beaten in the House) deserves to be primaried.
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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2014, 09:39:54 PM »

The bill just passed the House 219-206.
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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2014, 09:44:16 PM »

Smart move Mitch!
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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2014, 09:47:26 PM »

I don't want the shut down or less restrictions on campaign donations. If it does shut down at least it will be for a respectable reason.

I do. Every "Democrat" in the House who voted for this (who didn't get beaten in the House) deserves to be primaried.
Hahahahahhahha look at you thinking progressives will actually get off their asses and do something instead of writing angry words on the Internet and taking off to drink themselves half to death.
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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2014, 09:48:39 PM »

Nothing going on in the Senate yet.  Just some people standing around towards the front of the chamber.
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