opinion of the Red Pill movement?

[DemPGH]

Never even heard of it, but if it's a group of people who think women have some privileged position over men, I would say that's rubbish.

For anyone not familiar with it.

That women are "wicked in nature?" If that's accurate, that's as horrible as it gets.

[AggregateDemand]

Googled it. So it's a bunch of people who talk online about the disenfranchisement of men, and about how women have it better.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-red-pill-reddit-2013-8
http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/time-reddit-dump-red-pill/

That seems dumb.

If you look at statistics like labor force participation for men or real wages for men by age by year, you'll see the justification for belly-aching. Then consider lack of legal equity regarding parenthood, specifically that women can opt out of unintended pregnancy but not men.

Obviously, blaming women is pointless and unjustified, but blaming the other gender is how the women's right movement works. The world is full of people with legitimate complaints who lash out at the wrong people. Society doesn't seem to show any consistency as to who will be heard, and who will be humiliated.

[RedSLC]

A bunch of disgusting mysoginists with apparent
delusions of grandeur.

[freepcrusher]

I don't get the knee-jerk dislike for these guys. They at least have a sense of humor and I admire them for there smartass/irreverent personalities. Also if there's a women's rights movement, why can't there be a men's rights one? Lastly, its not like there some fringe movement. Yes a small percentage of the population call them red pillites but many people are red pillites without even knowing it (South Park to me is a red pill show).

BTW, why does BRTD hate South Park? Is he a closeted white knight?

[Simfan34]

I don't get the knee-jerk dislike for these guys. They at least have a sense of humor and I admire them for there smartass/irreverent personalities. Also if there's a women's rights movement, why can't there be a men's rights one? Lastly, its not like there some fringe movement. Yes a small percentage of the population call them red pillites but many people are red pillites without even knowing it (South Park to me is a red pill show).

BTW, why does BRTD hate South Park? Is he a closeted white knight?

We men already have rights, you see.

[free my dawg]

I don't get the knee-jerk dislike for these guys. They at least have a sense of humor and I admire them for there smartass/irreverent personalities. Also if there's a women's rights movement, why can't there be a men's rights one? Lastly, its not like there some fringe movement. Yes a small percentage of the population call them red pillites but many people are red pillites without even knowing it (South Park to me is a red pill show).

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

At least freepcrusher told the truth about South Park.

[Ebowed]

Look, most of those Red Pill guys will lose interest as soon as they actually manage to get a girlfriend.

Let's be real here: these are people who think that they are entitled to sexual encounters with women, and the prospect of rejection is just about the only way to get them to start talking about "equal rights."  They are the same people who think that they are entitled to jobs; if they can't find a job they like, they blame affirmative action.  These people are everything they accuse their "oppressors" of, and far worse.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

The problem with the "men's rights" movement is not that men still don't face injustices--they are more likely to be the victims of violence, more likely to commit suicide, more likely to face longer prison time for committing the same crimes, face stigma in careers like nursing and elementary education, and are liable to face stigma and even mockery for being raped, especially if they were raped in prison.

The problem with the "men's rights" movement is that it has chosen to blame all of these injustices on feminism, and spends far more time attacking feminist causes than actually helping men.

[Deus Naturae]

Look, most of those Red Pill guys will lose interest as soon as they actually manage to get a girlfriend.

You seem to me confusing Red Pillers with MRA's. Getting women is the entire purpose of the "Red Pill" movement

[IceSpear]

The problem with the "men's rights" movement is not that men still don't face injustices--they are more likely to be the victims of violence, more likely to commit suicide, and more likely to face longer prison time for committing the same crimes, face stigma in careers like nursing and elementary education, and are liable to face stigma and even mockery for being raped, especially if they were raped in prison.

The problem with the "men's rights" movement is that it has chosen to blame all of these injustices on feminism, and spends far more time attacking feminist causes than actually helping men.

This. If the MRAs actually did stuff about male-centric problems in society it would be fine. Instead it's just a club of guys bashing women and blaming feminism for their inability to get laid.

[Ebowed]

Look, most of those Red Pill guys will lose interest as soon as they actually manage to get a girlfriend.

You seem to me confusing Red Pillers with MRA's. Getting women is the entire purpose of the "Red Pill" movement

OK, but if you begin dating somebody and you start out believing that they are inherently wicked and deceitful, a common theme on the Red Pill subreddit, how on earth is that going to end well?

It seems to me that the Red Pill movement is more about men getting one night stands than relationships.  Which is also entirely a doable prospect without having to be a total jerk and misogynist.  After all, not all women are looking for relationships either.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

I don't get the knee-jerk dislike for these guys. They at least have a sense of humor and I admire them for there smartass/irreverent personalities. Also if there's a women's rights movement, why can't there be a men's rights one? Lastly, its not like there some fringe movement. Yes a small percentage of the population call them red pillites but many people are red pillites without even knowing it (South Park to me is a red pill show).

BTW, why does BRTD hate South Park? Is he a closeted white knight?

Merry Christmas freep! I hope you got the blow-up girlfriend you clearly desperately require.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I don't get the knee-jerk dislike for these guys.

Because, dear 'freepcrusher', they are terrible people who deserve to... what's the expression... I forget... ahaa... die in a fire?

[Badger]

discovering it improved my life significantly.

That seems unlikely.

Indeed. Please share more, Deus. Assuming you weren't trolling, that is..

[Gustaf]

The problem with the "men's rights" movement is not that men still don't face injustices--they are more likely to be the victims of violence, more likely to commit suicide, more likely to face longer prison time for committing the same crimes, face stigma in careers like nursing and elementary education, and are liable to face stigma and even mockery for being raped, especially if they were raped in prison.

The problem with the "men's rights" movement is that it has chosen to blame all of these injustices on feminism, and spends far more time attacking feminist causes than actually helping men.

Snowstalker actually made a very good point.

These movements are really quite sad. I find it hard to imagine any of these people having a close and intimate relationship with a woman (doesn't even have to be a sexual relationship). It seems like it'd be hard to uphold all these ideas if one does.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Instead of just calling these people horrible (they are) I will say that a movemenr like this is completely expected, sadly.