David Koch: "I'm a social liberal"

[Miles]

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Too bad many of those vile groups he funds support abortion restrictions, fight gay marriage, etc.

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Too bad many of those vile groups he funds support abortion restrictions, fight gay marriage, etc.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

[MalaspinaGold]

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Too bad many of those vile groups he funds support abortion restrictions, fight gay marriage, etc.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Shouldn't you be banned yet?

[IceSpear]

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I'm guessing Koch slipped Walters some cash for these softballs?

Was the next one: "How can people not see how wonderful you are? If you don't, you're an idiot. Yes, that means all you watching this. Stop hating success you envious libs?"

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Didn't he run on the Libertarian Party ticket in 1980?

[MaxQue]

Random medical fact of the day: Tuberculosis is caused by Koch's bacillus.

Not relevent at all with the subject, but, true, at least, unlike what David Koch is saying.

[Deus Naturae]

Yes, this has been known for some time. He supported same-sex marriage at least since 1980 when he was the LPVP nominee.

[Likely Voter]

THis is true of a lot of the big money people in the GOP. For example, Sheldon Adelson is pro-choice and runs a gambling empire.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/12/05/sheldon-adelson-im-basically-a-social-liberal/

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I'm guessing Koch slipped Walters some cash for these softballs?

Was the next one: "How can people not see how wonderful you are? If you don't, you're an idiot. Yes, that means all you watching this. Stop hating success you envious libs?"

Yeah, sounds like a complete joke of an interview.

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LOL, like being socially liberal makes up for having extreme views like wanting to abolish all public schools.

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I'm guessing Koch slipped Walters some cash for these softballs?

Was the next one: "How can people not see how wonderful you are? If you don't, you're an idiot. Yes, that means all you watching this. Stop hating success you envious libs?"

Yeah, sounds like a complete joke of an interview.

I mean, she is like 100. Larry King started to throw the soft balls when he got old, too.

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Why are so many people under the misapprehension that being "socially liberal" is the same thing as being socially libertarian?

[Landslide Lyndon]

[Deus Naturae]

LOL, like being socially liberal makes up for having extreme views like wanting to abolish all public schools.

I really don't think that's what he was trying to say.

[Deus Naturae]

Why are so many people under the misapprehension that being "socially liberal" is the same thing as being socially libertarian?

It makes more sense than equating being "socially liberal" with being socially "progressive."

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Yeah, he clearly cares about equality

[Miles]

Also, from what I've read about the brothers' relationship, Charles is more of the evil genius figure, who hates anything that has to do with government, while David kinda just goes along.

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The GOP depends upon a coalition of greedy b@stards who want to turn the American (and probably ultimately the world) economy into an engine of prosperity for themselves alone and people who do not care how miserable the world gets for themselves because God will bless them in the Afterlife for the suffering that God mandates for any who are to reach Heaven -- all others being damned to Hell. For the latter, 'non-biblical' beliefs of secularists and non-Christians condemn one to Hell as if one were a serial murderer.

That coalition works well enough because the two parts of it never meet each other. It's analogous to the Democratic coalition that lasted until the 1950s -- Southern racist agrarians who hated protectionist economic policies of the Republican Party and a combination of non-WASPs and blue-collar workers in the North. Once the Northern part of the Democratic Party found out what the Southern agrarians found out how nasty the Southern agrarians were toward blacks, the coalition fell apart.      

[Mister Mets]

Why are so many people under the misapprehension that being "socially liberal" is the same thing as being socially libertarian?

In the American parlance, a social liberal doesn't have to be a fiscal liberal.

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Too bad many of those vile groups he funds support abortion restrictions, fight gay marriage, etc.

I thought you were pro-life?

[Miles]

Too bad many of those vile groups he funds support abortion restrictions, fight gay marriage, etc.

I thought you were pro-life?

Personally, I am, but that doesn't mean I can't point out these contradictions.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Why are so many people under the misapprehension that being "socially liberal" is the same thing as being socially libertarian?

because the political compass

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Anyway, I read Koch's comments as: "If it does not affect me or my wallet personally, I don't give a sh*t." Since he's a (very) rich white man, he has that luxury.

[Oak Hills]

Didn't he run on the Libertarian Party ticket in 1980?

Yes, he was the vice-presidential nominee.

Also, with regards to the term social liberal, this is what Wikipedia has to say:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism

I know that our political discourse has evolved such that social liberal has come to mean "one who believes that the government should have less control with regard to non-economic issues", but the use of political terms to refer to things other than their standard meanings that one would find if one looked the terms up annoys me.  A similar case is many modern Americans' use of the word corporatist.

Social liberalism, in other words, properly refers to the whole of what we in the United States call liberalism, not just its views on a specific set of issues.

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Also, from what I've read about the brothers' relationship, Charles is more of the evil genius figure, who hates anything that has to do with government, while David kinda just goes along.

why do you think there is an "evil genius figure" involved here?  They have a lot of money, and they give it to various interest groups.