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« on: December 16, 2014, 02:26:57 AM »

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/hillary-clinton-iowa-2016/

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But...but...muh 2008 redux!
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2014, 02:49:59 AM »
« Edited: December 16, 2014, 02:58:50 AM by Kraxner »

Better hope she runs because if she does she'll be the only democrat i'll be voting for in 2016.

Not in the mood for Chief Warren, Biden or that aging socialist hippie sanders.
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2014, 04:01:29 AM »

Better hope she runs because if she does she'll be the only democrat i'll be voting for in 2016.

Not in the mood for Chief Warren, Biden or that aging socialist hippie sanders.

2 questions:
How long do your moods usually last?
Unless you're an elector from NY, who cares who you vote for?

These are irrelevant questions though. Hillary is running.
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2014, 06:38:44 AM »

Better hope she runs because if she does she'll be the only democrat i'll be voting for in 2016.

Not in the mood for Chief Warren, Biden or that aging socialist hippie sanders.

And I won't be voting for her, so we cancel out.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2014, 08:07:10 AM »

It doesn't matter, the media is going with the narrative that Hillary is vulnerable for whatever reason. She'll win regardless, and if she's attacked from the left it will only help her in the general election, assuming Obama remains unpopular.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2014, 02:51:00 PM »
« Edited: December 16, 2014, 07:29:13 PM by xingkerui »

The fact that 2016 isn't 2008 works both ways. Sure, she's better positioned than she was in 2008, but that doesn't mean her level of support in Iowa will only rise, like it did in 2008.
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2014, 05:08:22 PM »

It doesn't matter, the media is going with the narrative that Hillary is vulnerable for whatever reason. She'll win regardless, and if she's attacked from the left it will only help her in the general election, assuming Obama remains unpopular.

Yeah, they're not all concerned with facts, just their narrative. They want to stop the "boring" Hillary romp and will try their best to do so.

The fact that 2016 isn't 2008 works both ways. Sure, she's better positioned that she was in 2008, but that doesn't mean her level of support in Iowa will only rise, like it did in 2008.

But she doesn't need her support to rise. She's already cracking 60. 2008 is basically the ONLY possible thing the pundits can point to to "prove" Hillary is vulnerable, yet that comparison kind of falls apart when she goes from trailing Edwards in December 2006 to leading by 50 points in December 2014.
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2014, 07:31:13 PM »

I meant that she could lose popularity, especially if she dominates the headlines in 2015. A lot will depend on which (if any) Democrats challenge her, and how.
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2014, 07:58:35 PM »

I meant that she could lose popularity, especially if she dominates the headlines in 2015. A lot will depend on which (if any) Democrats challenge her, and how.
She already has one challenger. Jim Webb.
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2014, 08:03:01 PM »

Are there people who seriously think Hillary can lose Iowa? It's pretty obvious she'll get 60ish percent with low turnout with the rest being divided about between the rest of the jobbers who challenge her.
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2014, 08:26:21 PM »

I meant that she could lose popularity, especially if she dominates the headlines in 2015. A lot will depend on which (if any) Democrats challenge her, and how.
She already has one challenger. Jim Webb.

I'm pretty sure he's talking about serious challengers.
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