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« Reply #225 on: February 22, 2015, 10:25:44 AM »

Fair enough, all I will propose now is an increased space budget.

I will however note that our military budget is still way too small to be actually realistic, and I am dissapointed that some would disregard this section along with intelligence as useless, especially in light of the truly crucial role of this sector. It's not even a hawkish view, as the support of wide sections (even in the left) for increases in military spending will prove.

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« Reply #226 on: February 22, 2015, 01:48:23 PM »

I'm just curious, considering that Atlasia has likely passed budget surplus every year for quite a long time. At which level is the debt now? Tongue
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« Reply #227 on: February 22, 2015, 02:32:36 PM »

Considering the poor state of the national economy (with entire sectors of the economy on the verge of strike, as seen in the Pacific for instance), I don't see the need for a budget surplus at this point in time. I think, more important than nebulous matters like national debt, we should be focusing on lifting up struggling Atlasian workers.
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« Reply #228 on: February 22, 2015, 03:16:55 PM »

I'm tending towards the view that we should just finish this ASAP, and ultimately I'm not too bothered about what we do with the surplus.

Lief makes a very good point that the surplus could be used for good now, but on the other hand keeping some in reserve allows the senate to have some money to play with over the next few months so it can be directed to situations that really need it when they arise.
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« Reply #229 on: February 22, 2015, 03:45:28 PM »

I agree with Bore, the Senate is bound to spend on projects during the year and as we saw during 2014, too much spending can lead to huge problems later when it comes to balancing the budget. I really hope we can get this passed as soon as possible.
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« Reply #230 on: February 22, 2015, 03:46:50 PM »

Are we ready for a final vote?
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« Reply #231 on: February 22, 2015, 03:47:48 PM »


If someone sponsors my amendment I would hope so, otherwise the current version has no revenue.
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« Reply #232 on: February 23, 2015, 06:15:51 AM »

I will sponsor the President's amendment.

On topic, just because there is a surplus now, it's so small, a sneeze would blow it away. Let's leave it be.

I'm happy for a final vote.
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« Reply #233 on: February 23, 2015, 09:21:15 AM »

Yeah, I am ready for a final vote as well.

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« Reply #234 on: February 23, 2015, 02:57:57 PM »

Senators have 36 hours to object to Polnut's amendment
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« Reply #235 on: February 24, 2015, 11:55:43 PM »

I think this is the best we are going to get. While not ideal we need to pass a budget, and therefore I intend to vote aye on final passage provided Lumine's amendment is adopted.
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« Reply #236 on: February 25, 2015, 04:57:14 PM »

Polnut's amendment has been adopted.

I think it's time for a final vote.
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« Reply #237 on: February 25, 2015, 05:12:00 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #238 on: February 25, 2015, 07:03:47 PM »

Indeed, it's time for a final vote!
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« Reply #239 on: February 26, 2015, 08:31:01 AM »

Senators a final vote is now open on this bill, please vote aye nay or abstain
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« Reply #240 on: February 26, 2015, 08:57:08 AM »

AYE

Let's get this thing passed, at last
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« Reply #241 on: February 26, 2015, 08:58:26 AM »

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« Reply #242 on: February 26, 2015, 10:45:08 AM »

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« Reply #243 on: February 26, 2015, 11:00:00 PM »

Non-Reluctant Aye
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« Reply #244 on: February 26, 2015, 11:03:00 PM »

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« Reply #245 on: February 27, 2015, 07:38:39 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #246 on: February 27, 2015, 10:47:26 AM »

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« Reply #247 on: February 27, 2015, 01:50:35 PM »

Aye

This has enough votes to pass, senators have 24 hours to change their votes
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« Reply #248 on: February 28, 2015, 03:43:24 PM »

By a vote of 6-2 this has passed the senate and is sent to the president for executive action

Aye: Bore, Polnut, Yankee, Windjammer, Cris, Cranberry

Nay: TNF, Lief

Not Voting: BK, SWE
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« Reply #249 on: February 28, 2015, 03:52:18 PM »

Fair enough, all I will propose now is an increased space budget.

I will however note that our military budget is still way too small to be actually realistic, and I am dissapointed that some would disregard this section along with intelligence as useless, especially in light of the truly crucial role of this sector. It's not even a hawkish view, as the support of wide sections (even in the left) for increases in military spending will prove.

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x LumineVonReuental, President of Atlasia.

I would like to thank the Senators for approving a final version of the 2015 Budget, and I am happy to sign it.

I do hope that this is the last time a President makes the grave mistake of sending a budget so late (for that I take full responsibility, even if it was the original duty of the administration elected in June 2014), and I would like to encourage whoever is elected in June to send a budget in September-October so there's more than enough time to debate the 2016 Budget.
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