Hillary Clinton vs. Jeb Bush

[Frodo]

Battle of the dynasties.

Also, maps are welcomed. 

[Mehmentum]

A 2012 repeat.  The most boring election ever.

[IceSpear]

I don't see Jeb being as formidable as many people do. If Hillary is "rusty" then he's corroded, and of course he has the anchor of his last name weighing him down. I could see a Midwestern backlash against Jeb since he's a poor fit for the region, which could flip MO and possibly IN (though that's less likely). I think Hillary wins the popular vote by a slightly larger margin than Obama 2012, but falls a smidgen below his electoral vote count.

Clinton - 328
Bush - 210

[Devils30]

I still think Hillary pulls out Florida in that map. Maybe 50-49% but she's strong there.

[Angel of Death]

Should have added Perot as an option.

[Panda Express]

Man, talk about a boring election with low turnout. Hillary probably wins I guess.

[Suburbia]

Turnout will be around 45%-55%. Hillary wins, but slightly.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

A 2012 repeat.  The most boring election ever.

You know Bush has money. Jeb Bush does not have a Mitt Romney problem at all. Look at this way. Hillary is a little unelectable because she criticizes and criticized the Iraq War but she voted for in the Senate. Elizabeth Warren has some skeletons in her closet. She for sure has flip flopped somewhere. A candidate who may have voted Republican in the eighties but is now a liberal Democrat is bound to have made some changes in her positions. Mitt Romney was an independent during the Reagan/Bush years. The talking points about Romney are well known.

Revisionist fantasy. Hillary voted to give Bush the authority to go to war with Iraq, not for the baseless war he ended up waging.

[Likely Voter]

A lot of that depends on what kind of Jeb Bush exits the primaries. Will he still be the moderate sounding guy he is now, with middle of the road positions (like supporting a path to citizenship for undocemnted immigrants)? That guy has a good chance of winning.  But if the primaries do to him what they did to Romney and McCain, then the map will look like 2012 with Rs carrying FL (and maybe the Ds pick up NC)

[The_Doctor]

Jeb loses to Hillary, by 100 electoral votes. Florida is a 50-49% Jeb win.

[King]

The key to beating Mr. Bush is very simple: take the high ground. Run a clean campaign. Be very respectful to Mr. Bush and always refer to him as Mr. Bush, or Governor Bush. Never show him disrespect as a statesman by referring to him by his first name.

Do that and defeating Bush will be quite easy.

[Cory]

Hillary Clinton: 276

Jeb Bush: 262

[Xing]

Assuming a close race, I'll say this

Clinton - 279
Bush - 259

[Libertarian Socialist Dem]

Hillary Clinton/Julian Castro 284
Jeb Bush/John Kasich 254

Bush picks Kasich thinking that Ohio and Florida on the Republican ticket will be unbeatable. Also takes Iowa where Hillary is notoriously weak. Hillary holds onto the west with high hispanic turnout for Castro and pulls off a narrow upset in West Virginia with the campaign spending a lot of money on Bill going there on her behalf.

Sorry, apparently I can't include the map.

[SPC]

At best, Bush the Third will match Romney among white voters (he is probably one of the worst candidates to run for this demographic) and thus the only difference I make between this and the 2012 map is assuming that Bush can match his brother's numbers among Hispanics (a stretch, to say the least), while Asians and Blacks revert back to pre-Obama voting patterns. In states that were close, I put my thumb on the scale depending on Clinton's strength in that state (so Colorado and Virginia go for Bush while Nevada and New Mexico go for Clinton). While I am ordinarily bearish on Clinton's chances of winning, Bush does not seem like the right candidate to exploit Clinton's intrinsic weaknesses.

[Senator Cris]

A 294-244 victory for Hillary.
Colorado, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina and Ohio very close.

[Donnie]

Should have added Perot as an option.

GOOD ONE!

[Devils30]

Jeb is so overrated, Hillary in Florida and North Carolina while Arizona and Georgia are within 5 points. Hillary wins Ohio by 5%.

[Joe Biden 2020]

As I mentioned in the Webb vs. Bush thread, I think Common Core will hurt Jeb Bush more than he realizes.  Hillary Clinton is neither very strong or very good, but she will undoubtedly be better than Governor Bush especially on issues like education.  I would easily vote for Hillary over Jeb.  Jeb's demise will have nothing to do with his last name.  The Bush name is not as toxic as it was 8 years ago.  After 8 pathetic years of Obama, the Bush name actually sounds pretty appealing.  I just think his other issues will be his undoing.  I figure Hillary wins with between 280 and 290 EV's, so definitely not a landslide and a guaranteed late night or early Wednesday morning call, but she would win.

[Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort]

The key to beating Mr. Bush is very simple: take the high ground. Run a clean campaign. Be very respectful to Mr. Bush and always refer to him as Mr. Bush, or Governor Bush. Never show him disrespect as a statesman by referring to him by his first name.

Do that and defeating Bush will be quite easy.

QFT

[Mehmentum]

There are a few problems with Jeb Bush that could potentially arise.

1). The most powerful tool Republicans have against Clinton is trying to make the election a referendum on Obama.  If they can tie Clinton to Obama and field a candidate better than Romney, they have a good shot at winning. 

The problem is that nominating a Bush creates another narrative.  Now we have another Clinton v. Bush race, and the media will definitely focus a lot on that aspect of the race.  Obama will obviously be a major talking point, but it'll be drowned out somewhat.

2.) His 'Mitt Romney' problem.  Jeb's image hasn't developed to the point where we can say if attacks related to his corporate ties will stick or not, but its definitely a potential vulnerability.  I am pretty sure that this will get dragged out in the primaries. 

[MATTROSE94]

I imagine a map like this one could be likely in a Clinton vs. Bush matchup:

Former Secretary ofState Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Mark Warner (D-VA): 320 Electoral Votes (52%)
Former Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL)/Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL): 218 Electoral Votes (46%)
Others (Libertarian, Green, etc.) 0 Electoral Votes (2%)

Overall, the map is pretty similar to 2012, though Hillary Clinton is able to pick up North Carolina and Arizona and Jeb Bush is able to carry Colorado and Florida. In addition, Missouri and Georgia are also very close, but in the end, Jeb Bush carries both by a small margin.

As for their running-mate choices, I imagine that Jeb Bush would go with Jeff Sessions in order to reach out to very conservative voters and those who are reluctant to support him over his stance on immigration (as Jeff Sessions is one of the foremost advocates of a tougher immigration policy and is one of the closest Senate allies of Ted Cruz) while Hillary Clinton will probably go with Mark Warner, though his small re-election margin against Ed Gillespie might end up as a lliability for the Clinton campaign.

[GLPman]

I imagine a map like this one could be likely in a Clinton vs. Bush matchup:

Former Secretary ofState Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Mark Warner (D-VA): 320 Electoral Votes (52%)
Former Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL)/Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL): 218 Electoral Votes (46%)
Others (Libertarian, Green, etc.) 0 Electoral Votes (2%)

Overall, the map is pretty similar to 2012, though Hillary Clinton is able to pick up North Carolina and Arizona and Jeb Bush is able to carry Colorado and Florida. In addition, Missouri and Georgia are also very close, but in the end, Jeb Bush carries both by a small margin.

As for their running-mate choices, I imagine that Jeb Bush would go with Jeff Sessions in order to reach out to very conservative voters and those who are reluctant to support him over his stance on immigration (as Jeff Sessions is one of the foremost advocates of a tougher immigration policy and is one of the closest Senate allies of Ted Cruz) while Hillary Clinton will probably go with Mark Warner, though his small re-election margin against Ed Gillespie might end up as a lliability for the Clinton campaign.

Bush wouldn't lose AZ while winning CO and FL, and he certainly wouldn't select Sessions as his running mate.

[rbt48]

Bush would be a more formidable candidate than many suspect.  He is considerably more articulate, better spoken, than George W.  He is a faster thinker, too, and would come across very well in any debates.  I wouldn't rule out a very competitive race with all the Romney states being held (and add Florida) and these states up for grabs:
Iowa, Ohio, Virginia, Nevada, and New Hampshire.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Bush would be a more formidable candidate than many suspect.  He is considerably more articulate, better spoken, than George W.  He is a faster thinker, too, and would come across very well in any debates.  I wouldn't rule out a very competitive race with all the Romney states being held (and add Florida) and these states up for grabs:
Iowa, Ohio, Virginia, Nevada, and New Hampshire.

Yeah, all we need as articulate Bush, and everything will be great. What ever happened to this guy?

http://www.c-span.org/video/?4291-1/look-next-president-bush