Poll: Americans approve of Brown decision, disapprove of Garner decision
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« on: December 18, 2014, 09:21:23 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2014/12/18/fox-news-poll-80-percent-disapprove-congress-two-thirds-say-govt-broken/

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I found the wide gulf between these results interesting. Even if video evidence doesn't change jury decisions, it seems it can change public opinion. The poll also shows 85-11 support for requiring police officers to wear cameras.
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2014, 10:15:35 PM »

The American people don't seem so nutty for once.
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2014, 12:03:51 AM »

This is quite understandable actually.
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2014, 12:23:14 AM »

I wish we had a racial breakdown on the Garner question. Those numbers suggest that even a plurality of whites disapprove of the Garner decision. 
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2014, 12:31:23 AM »

I wish we had a racial breakdown on the Garner question. Those numbers suggest that even a plurality of whites disapprove of the Garner decision. 

These are the crosstabs:

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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2014, 12:42:42 AM »

This is quite understandable actually.

Yeah, this isn't my position but I definitely get why one would hold it.
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2014, 12:46:04 AM »

The 24-point income gap on the Brown question is a bit surprising.
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2014, 01:03:46 AM »

I wish we had a racial breakdown on the Garner question. Those numbers suggest that even a plurality of whites disapprove of the Garner decision. 

These are the crosstabs:



Nice, didn't see those. Absolute majority it is then!
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2014, 02:47:13 AM »

Tea Partiers disagree with the Garner decision by 7%, Conservatives by 12%, yet Republicans approve by 3%

What is the subsample size?

Seems we got some old timey Nixon Republicans being racist.
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2014, 08:25:49 AM »

Tea Partiers disagree with the Garner decision by 7%, Conservatives by 12%, yet Republicans approve by 3%

What is the subsample size?

Seems we got some old timey Nixon Republicans being racist.

A lot of Tea Partiers probably aren't counting themselves as Republicans. And because of Rand Paul's anti-tax angle, Tea Partiers may be more likely to support the indictment than mainstream Republicans?
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« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2014, 10:06:56 AM »

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This proves that most people evaluate case by case as they should and formulate opinions based on evidence.  I thought that Ofc. Pantaleo should have been charged with, at minimum, involuntary manslaughter -- based on the fact that the headlock wasn't removed when Garner was obviously having difficulty breathing.

As for Michael Brown, we are now aware that "hands up" was a narrative that never happened, and it appears it was clear cut police work and self-defense.

Leaves me with some hope that despite race industry divisive rhetoric, majority of folks formulate opinions based on facts vs rhetoric
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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2014, 11:29:10 AM »

Tea Partiers disagree with the Garner decision by 7%, Conservatives by 12%, yet Republicans approve by 3%

What is the subsample size?

Seems we got some old timey Nixon Republicans being racist.

Republicans tending more pro-establishment/authority than tea partiers and conservative Dems/indies.
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2014, 06:26:10 PM »

That's my opinion on the issue as well. I was never convinced by the Brown story. The Garner one on the other hand is a clear example of police brutality.

People really should have made Garner the national issue, not Brown.
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2014, 07:05:38 PM »

I I thought the Garner decision why did the police officer still have him in a choke hold/headlock(whatever you want to call it) when Garner was down on the ground? It made no sense. The officer should have let go of the choke hold/headlock once Garner was was on the ground.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2014, 07:24:12 PM »

That's my opinion on the issue as well. I was never convinced by the Brown story. The Garner one on the other hand is a clear example of police brutality.

People really should have made Garner the national issue, not Brown.

On the other hand, if people wanted to make this a Dem/Rep fight, Brown was clearly the right choice.
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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2014, 02:58:09 AM »

That's my opinion on the issue as well. I was never convinced by the Brown story. The Garner one on the other hand is a clear example of police brutality.

People really should have made Garner the national issue, not Brown.
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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2014, 04:40:38 AM »

This is quite understandable actually.

Yeah; Brown seems far more of a case of self-defence to many people.
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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2014, 12:16:06 PM »

I agreed with the Brown decision, iffy on the Garner decision. That one I would agree is a little unfair but the cops knew him and he had an extensive criminal record. I am concerned thusly if the cops were trying to control the situation and if Garner had just emptied out his pockets and showed he wasn't dealing drugs, I don't necessarily think the cops would have bothered him further.
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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2014, 04:47:28 PM »

I agreed with the Brown decision, iffy on the Garner decision. That one I would agree is a little unfair but the cops knew him and he had an extensive criminal record. I am concerned thusly if the cops were trying to control the situation and if Garner had just emptied out his pockets and showed he wasn't dealing drugs, I don't necessarily think the cops would have bothered him further.

     The thing about the Garner case is that the NYPD forbids its officers from using chokeholds. Even if what the officer did were not criminal, he should have faced disciplinary action for it.
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2014, 12:23:56 PM »

Both officers may still face federal charges; the officer in the Brown case has already resigned.
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« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2014, 10:35:01 PM »

In my opinion this poll shows us that ordinary people can recognize what's happened in both cases but media and press threw fat into the fire because the government don't need really UNITED America. 
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