Opinion of Pro-Life Feminists

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Silly.

[Supersonic]

I've only met one person who would fit this bill, and they're horrible. I voted accordingly.

[SWE]

You're not a feminist if you think women shouldn't have control over their own bodies.

[politicus]

You're not a feminist if you think women shouldn't have control over their own bodies.

You are right when it comes to forced pregnancy (rape and incest), but not with a voluntary pregnancy. Believing that human life has value and rights and that women should take responsibility for their own actions (incl. missteps) is not anathema to being a feminist.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

I can understand the notion of a pro-life feminist even if I am not pro-life myself - if someone truly thought an embryo was sapient from fertilisation, then I can understand why they are opposed to abortion. I can comprehend the worldview that opposes abortion, but I cannot understand why anybody would oppose feminism.

[DC Al Fine]

I can understand the notion of a pro-life feminist even if I am not pro-life myself - if someone truly thought an embryo was sapient from fertilisation, then I can understand why they are opposed to abortion. I can comprehend the worldview that opposes abortion, but I cannot understand why anybody would oppose feminism.

Coming from socon land, its largely because feminism and the policies it promotes are perceived as either undermining the family (e.g. no-fault divorce), or mass murder of innocents in the case of abortion.

[Goldwater]

I know people like this exist, but I just kinda pretend that they don't.

Why? Because it doesn't fit in with some simplistic narrative of how people should think?

[Marokai Backbeat]

There are many people who genuinely support restricting abortion due to sexist and misogynistic attitudes toward women and their sexual liberty. But if you genuinely believe that an abortion involves the termination of an innocent human life (as many people, women and feminists included, often do) then supporting abortion restrictions is not a sexist act, nor is it in contradiction to the central concepts of feminism. Pro-life feminists are simply feminists earnestly believe abortion is, at one point or another, immoral and harmful.

There are more nuances at work in politics and life that some people don't seem to acknowledge, probably because they don't translate well to gif form.

[checkers]

I think CrabCake and Marokai summarised my views pretty nicely. As a pro-choice feminist, the right to have an abortion is central to my conception of reproductive freedom and thus women's rights, and I find it hard to understand how someone can be a feminist and not see it that way, but at the same time, I can accept that some people might have religious reasons for viewing an unborn child as a life, and I don't want to exclude those people, particularly women who have to deal with sexism in other ways.

[ZuWo]

I wanted to vote FF when I read the poll question but then some male teenagers and their definition of feminism opened my eyes so I immediately switched my vote to HP.

[Sopranos Republican]

I wanted to vote FF when I read the poll question but then some male teenagers and their definition of feminism opened my eyes so I immediately switched my vote to HP.

Glad we could help!

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Epic FFs.  Feminism shouldn't be about abortion; it should be about equal rights and opportunity for women.  Contraceptives and adoption are OK, but nobody should ever have the "right" to kill unborn children.

[Lambsbread]

I know people like this exist, but I just kinda pretend that they don't.

Why? Because it doesn't fit in with some simplistic narrative of how people should think?

No, because it's like one calling themselves a Libertarian whilst supporting progressive taxation and foreign occupation.

[Goldwater]

I know people like this exist, but I just kinda pretend that they don't.

Why? Because it doesn't fit in with some simplistic narrative of how people should think?

No, because it's like one calling themselves a Libertarian whilst supporting progressive taxation and foreign occupation.

Not really. I don't see how being Pro-Life is incompatible with being a Feminist, unless you take the simplistic view that opposing abortion equals hating women.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

Freedom Fighters, I guess. I don't agree with the pro-life part, but I can understand why people (including many women) have pro-life views, especially when you consider that in certain parts of the world, aborting unborn females is still accepted and practiced.


Abortion's not an issue I care about though, so whatever you guys wanna do.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

I would consider myself one.

Being pro-life doesn't have much to do with women's rights. I know that statement goes against today's popular politicking, and you can put it in the deluge if you want, but it's what I believe.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I know people like this exist, but I just kinda pretend that they don't.

Why? Because it doesn't fit in with some simplistic narrative of how people should think?

No, because it's like one calling themselves a Libertarian whilst supporting progressive taxation and foreign occupation.

Not really. I don't see how being Pro-Life is incompatible with being a Feminist, unless you take the simplistic view that opposing abortion equals hating women.

     This sort of thing is why discussion on abortion is so enervating. While I am personally pro-choice, I know people very close to me who are pro-life for religious reasons. Many of them are also feminists. The types who insist that pro-life politics are inherently misogynystic delude themselves in order to exclude those that they dislike.

[ElectionsGuy]

I know people like this exist, but I just kinda pretend that they don't.

Why? Because it doesn't fit in with some simplistic narrative of how people should think?

No, because it's like one calling themselves a Libertarian whilst supporting progressive taxation and foreign occupation.

Not really. I don't see how being Pro-Life is incompatible with being a Feminist, unless you take the simplistic view that opposing abortion equals hating women.

If you want to get a sense of where some of our fellow forumites stand on this view, you should probably read up on this thread.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

I would consider myself one.

Being pro-life doesn't have much to do with women's rights. I know that statement goes against today's popular politicking, and you can put it in the deluge if you want, but it's what I believe.

I would consider myself a pro-life feminist as well.  Thank you for a much-needed breath of fresh air!

[Lambsbread]

I know people like this exist, but I just kinda pretend that they don't.

Why? Because it doesn't fit in with some simplistic narrative of how people should think?

No, because it's like one calling themselves a Libertarian whilst supporting progressive taxation and foreign occupation.

Not really. I don't see how being Pro-Life is incompatible with being a Feminist, unless you take the simplistic view that opposing abortion equals hating women.

Feminism is, at its core, about women having ultimate autonomy over their bodies.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I know people like this exist, but I just kinda pretend that they don't.

Why? Because it doesn't fit in with some simplistic narrative of how people should think?

No, because it's like one calling themselves a Libertarian whilst supporting progressive taxation and foreign occupation.

Not really. I don't see how being Pro-Life is incompatible with being a Feminist, unless you take the simplistic view that opposing abortion equals hating women.

Feminism is, at its core, about women having ultimate autonomy over their bodies.

     Even if they sincerely believe that abortion is murder?

[Türkisblau]

Pro-life feminists tend to avoid the worst aspect of feminism, and the worst aspects of anti-abortion arguments and activism. FF.

[Lambsbread]

     Even if they sincerely believe that abortion is murder?

Well, like I said, one can't call themselves a Libertarian whilst believing that Government should regulate the market. It's a contradictory view. If feminism is about women controlling their bodies, and someone believes that a woman shouldn't have control of their body, it violates that belief.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I know people like this exist, but I just kinda pretend that they don't.

Why? Because it doesn't fit in with some simplistic narrative of how people should think?

No, because it's like one calling themselves a Libertarian whilst supporting progressive taxation and foreign occupation.

Not really. I don't see how being Pro-Life is incompatible with being a Feminist, unless you take the simplistic view that opposing abortion equals hating women.

Feminism is, at its core, about women having ultimate autonomy over their bodies.

Not all feminists would agree with that at all.

[politicus]

No, because it's like one calling themselves a Libertarian whilst supporting progressive taxation and foreign occupation.

bad analogy is bad