Poll: MI voters do not support splitting its EV

[Tender Branson]

Republicans desperately want to split it, because they cannot win Presidential elections anymore:



The survey of 600 likely likely voters was conducted December 10 – 14 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.0%. Twenty percent of those who participated in the poll answered question from the mobile phones.

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http://www.wxyz.com/news/political/exclusive-poll-michigan-voters-not-ready-to-toss-out-winner-take-all-electoral-vote

[Türkisblau]

This is just so idiotic considering how the electoral vote is supposed to work. Each state is supposed to be a single unit under it, and when you start changing that you might as well just scrap the whole thing altogether.

This "reform" is just like bipartisan redistricting. No progress is going to be made on it no matter how noble it is because one side will benefit and one side will clearly lose out.

[Slander and/or Libel]

Not true, actually. The Constitution allows states to apportion their electoral votes however they want. Almost all of them happen to use the winner take all system, but there's nothing implicit about how the Electoral College is "supposed to work".

[DS0816]

It is yet another Republican attempt at a power grab.

[Stockdale for Veep]

Did Nebraska try to go to state wide allocation after Obama stole a vote in 08? That actually makes sense.

It is really stupid that a national election has different allocation processes.

[TDAS04]

Can't blame them.

[ElectionsGuy]

Thank god. Though the level of support it actually has is scary enough. Having a state as big and gerrymandered as Michigan operate like Maine or Nebraska in Presidential elections undermines democracy itself.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

I know I don't.

[pbrower2a]

Not true, actually. The Constitution allows states to apportion their electoral votes however they want. Almost all of them happen to use the winner take all system, but there's nothing implicit about how the Electoral College is "supposed to work".

To apportion the electoral votes of any State in a way that distorts the percentage of the votes in a Federal election would be a violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. "Winner-take-all" remains the least-messy way to assign electoral votes.

Thank god. Though the level of support it actually has is scary enough. Having a state as big and gerrymandered as Michigan operate like Maine or Nebraska in Presidential elections undermines democracy itself.

     

Because the two Congressional districts of Maine are similar it is unlikely that the shapes of districts would be the difference between a split of the state's electoral vote and the winner of the plurality getting all four electoral votes. In Nebraska, one of the districts is Greater Omaha, which is very different from the rest of the state... and the Third District is the last electoral vote that any Democrat could ever get. 

Michigan is so gerrymandered that Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, and Lansing are represented by Republicans. Draw the lines differently, and a district that stretches from Grand Rapids to Lansing would be majority-D; one that stretches from Kalamazoo through Battle Creek to East Lansing would also be majority-D.

[dmmidmi]

Too bad that if the state legislature ever pushed this through in a midnight session, they'd still hold majorities in both houses following the 2016 election.

[Tender Branson]

Thank goodness, Gov. Snyder isn't a big fan of this Republican EV change (at least not for the 2016 election):

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[Oldiesfreak1854]

I'm a Republican and I think this is a terrible idea, too.

[CountryClassSF]

Last I heard the bill was tabled.  Liberal Snyder does not have the cajones to help ensure a Republican presidency.

[IceSpear]

Last I heard the bill was tabled.  Liberal Snyder does not have the cajones to help ensure a Republican presidency.

How would this ensure a Republican presidency? Even if this happened, it wouldn't change any recent presidential result.

[pbrower2a]

Texas can go first, ideally by some proportional split of all but two of the electoral votes (winner-take-all for those). 

[The_Doctor]

As I said, a while ago, Michigan and other states won't do this. The simple reason is that it endangers Republican Congressional members in swing districts by focusing Presidential election firepower in them. That's why electoral district splitting will never ever happen beyond Maine and Nebraska - and not in major states.

[MurrayBannerman]

The worst thing about this is the graph.