Opinion of feminism

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Not sure if it should even be called a philosophy? Not sure what word to use tho.

FP for me, obviously.

[TNF]

Freedom Ideology.

All who oppose it should be shot (normal/sane/etc)

[TDAS04]

FP (male feminist)

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

FP, duh.

[Murica!]

FP (male feminist)

[Sopranos Republican]

FP (male feminist)

[Marokai Backbeat]

The basic founding idea of feminism, of treating men and women fairly and equally irrespective of sex, is awfully hard to argue with.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

FP

[Antonio the Sixth]

FP (male feminist)

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

The basic founding idea of feminism, of treating men and women fairly and equally irrespective of sex, is awfully hard to argue with.

[Cory]

The basic founding idea of feminism, of treating men and women fairly and equally irrespective of sex, is awfully hard to argue with.

[Oakvale]

Unlike my comrades above I'm not going to identify as a "male feminist", but "FP", naturally.

What do Marokai, Clark and Cory mean?  Re: the implication that feminism as we currently understand it has shifted away from said founding idea.

[SWE]

Obvious FP (not a misogynist)

[Marokai Backbeat]

What do Marokai, Clark and Cory mean?  Re: the implication that feminism as we currently understand it has shifted away from said founding idea.

I just meant that it's difficult to disagree with the core founding idea that various feminisms revolve around, but that the thread question doesn't really encompass all of the various nuances of different modern feminist ideologies, of which there are many branches.

In that respect it's not much different from religions, take Christianity, that starts with a basic concept (in this case "The belief that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior") but then branch out to a million and ahalf ways of forwarding that central belief and the best way to live it. Some sects may be more liberal or hardline than others. In this case I've always strongly believed in the central concept (fair and equal treatment irrespective of gender and sex) but it doesn't necessarily translate into a positive opinion of all feminists, feminist ideologies, or organizations.

[ElectionsGuy]

Feminism itself is of course FP, but what it has devolved to in the modern day is pretty awful.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Feminism itself is of course FP, but what it has devolved to in the modern day is pretty awful.

What, in your opinion, has it devolved into? I'm just curious, (mainly because from my vantage point, feminism is a lot healthier than it was in, say, the 70's).

[DC Al Fine]

Depends what era feminism. If we're talking voting rights, or stopping sexual harassment, sure FP. If we're talking about the ideology that insists on the absolute right to infanticide, then horrible horrible HP.

[PPT Spiral]

I'm sure that in theory feminism is all fine and dandy. That said, people, especially women, who like to think of themselves as ardently feminist, tend to be harmful to society and useless. Campus activists are the worst of sorts.

Nailed it.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

kind of a meaningless term by itself in terms of philosophy. seems to function largely as a social identifier to give the speaker authority or a marketing advantage within certain circles.

[ElectionsGuy]

Feminism itself is of course FP, but what it has devolved to in the modern day is pretty awful.

What, in your opinion, has it devolved into? I'm just curious, (mainly because from my vantage point, feminism is a lot healthier than it was in, say, the 70's).

Basically the ramblings of how sexist society is and how women are so oppressed by social norms (which can just as easily be applied to men). Instead of ideas to fix actual problems, they argue that they need to rise up to the hierarchy that they oppressed by, its quite hyperbolic.  Also, the people who call for censorship of video games, movies, and pornography because of how women are portrayed are terrible.

I'm a total feminist in that I don't believe in gender roles at all, and of course I'm favor of equal protection and treatment for any job or role in society. However, when people get nanny-ish about how women are portrayed, or how people think about women, I don't really see that as an attractive movement.

[Goldwater]

The basic founding idea of feminism, of treating men and women fairly and equally irrespective of sex, is awfully hard to argue with.

[ingemann]

While I don't see myself as a feminist and I don't support everything feministic. I still think it's a freedom ideology, which have forced the other part of society to recognise women as equals, something which is the greatest achievement of the 20th century.

[Deus Naturae]

"Equal" is a quantitative term that isn't very useful in qualitatively describing human beings. There is no objective measure of human greatness so a person or group of persons cannot be "equal" anymore than they can be "greater than" or "less than" one another. It's silly to say that both genders are "equal" just as it's silly to say that one gender is "superior." They're just different.

[Associate Justice PiT]

"Equal" is a quantitative term that isn't very useful in qualitatively describing human beings. There is no objective measure of human greatness so a person or group of persons cannot be "equal" anymore than they can be "greater than" or "less than" one another. It's silly to say that both genders are "equal" just as it's silly to say that one gender is "superior." They're just different.

     I think the important thing is that both genders should be treated equally. While men and women will tend to be different, it's important that people not be discriminated against based on their gender. I dislike the term "feminism" since it does not necessarily imply this as its focus, though many historical feminists did have this goal in mind.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

"Equal" is a quantitative term that isn't very useful in qualitatively describing human beings. There is no objective measure of human greatness so a person or group of persons cannot be "equal" anymore than they can be "greater than" or "less than" one another. It's silly to say that both genders are "equal" just as it's silly to say that one gender is "superior." They're just different.

Aren't you supposed to be a libertarian?