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« on: December 19, 2014, 05:46:08 PM »

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2014/12/19/sony-the-interview-hackers-gop/20635449/

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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2014, 06:02:21 PM »

Good. Caving to threats of terrorism like this sets a very dangerous precedent.
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2014, 06:11:00 PM »

What? He has no business even addressing this beyond "We're looking into the criminal violations committed".

It was a private business decision to protect their company. And the deal was basically set when the theater chain - the ones who really killed the project - decided not to show it.

Let's be real - he probably decided to pile on Sony because of the racist comments about him in the e-mail.
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2014, 06:20:50 PM »

Good.
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2014, 06:26:25 PM »
« Edited: December 20, 2014, 12:02:23 AM by Deus Naturae »

What? He has no business even addressing this beyond "We're looking into the criminal violations committed".

It was a private business decision to protect their company. And the deal was basically set when the theater chain - the ones who really killed the project - decided not to show it.

Let's be real - he probably decided to pile on Sony because of the racist comments about him in the e-mail.
Yeah, this. The reason they can't show the movie because the theater companies wouldn't allow them to. Obama obviously knows this and is just concern trolling.
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2014, 06:27:34 PM »

Again, capitalism.
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2014, 06:36:38 PM »

I agree with the sentiment, but does the release of a movie really rise to the level so serious that it requires the president to speak out? I don't think so. The US government itself tried to censor the Innocence of Muslims by asking YouTube to take it down after riots attacked US embassies in 2012- actual physical violence where people were killed, which is a lot worse than issuing a few empty threats and exposing Amy Pascal's racist emails. If I were Sony I would be pretty pissed. What laws have they broken that the US government had to take an official stance against them? If Obama wanted the movie released so bad he could have worked with then to get it pushed to a later date. They are the victims here, having been hacked, facing legal threats from movie theaters, and losing hundreds of millions on this dumb flick- which for all we know never would have bee made without them to begin with. Obama screwed up here unless there's more to this story we don't know. I also think that it's funny how North Korea preventing a movie from being released had generated far more outrage than their actual human rights atrocities. How dare they interfere with our entertainment!
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2014, 06:39:34 PM »

We're outraged when North Korea scares Sony out of airing a crappy movie, but don't bat an eye as Israel murders civilians en masse. Okay.
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2014, 06:42:04 PM »

We're outraged when North Korea scares Sony out of airing a crappy movie, but don't bat an eye as Israel murders civilians en masse. Okay.

*Comes into completely unrelated thread* "Okay, but did you know Joos did a thing"
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2014, 06:42:31 PM »

Says the self-identified Communist. I'll just leave that hanging there. As they often did!
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« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2014, 06:44:31 PM »

Says the self-identified Communist. I'll just leave that hanging there. As they often did!

All those North Korean dissenters murdered or worked to death in labor camps were clearly bourgeois trash.
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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2014, 06:47:36 PM »

I have a very negative opinion of Juche. I was merely pointing out America's foreign policy standards--that is, to stand up for "human rights" (like opposition to government censorship) unless those rights are being violated by Saudis or Israelis or Albanians.
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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2014, 07:23:23 PM »

I have a very negative opinion of Juche. I was merely pointing out America's foreign policy standards--that is, to stand up for "human rights" (like opposition to government censorship) unless those rights are being violated by Saudis or Israelis or Albanians.

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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2014, 08:37:42 PM »

We're outraged when North Korea scares Sony out of airing a crappy movie, but don't bat an eye as Israel murders civilians en masse. Okay.

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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2014, 09:12:40 PM »

What? He has no business even addressing this beyond "We're looking into the criminal violations committed".

It was a private business decision to protect their company. And the deal was basically set when the theater chain - the ones who really killed the project - decided not to show it.

Let's be real - he probably decided to pile on Sony because of the racist comments about him in the e-mail.

Well, it's also a matter of a foreign state intimidating American companies into doing certain things- in the United States. In a way, it's an infringement on our sovereignty.
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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2014, 09:16:39 PM »

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Not such a terrible suggestion, tbh.
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2014, 09:22:56 PM »

What? He has no business even addressing this beyond "We're looking into the criminal violations committed".

It was a private business decision to protect their company. And the deal was basically set when the theater chain - the ones who really killed the project - decided not to show it.

Let's be real - he probably decided to pile on Sony because of the racist comments about him in the e-mail.

Well, it's also a matter of a foreign state intimidating American companies into doing certain things- in the United States. In a way, it's an infringement on our sovereignty.

Absolutely - and that's why he should be announcing what concrete steps we'll be taking to punish the perpetrators, and to beef up our cybersecurity, rather than hectoring a private business taking a measure to protect their interests - especially since they weren't the ones preventing people from seeing this movie.
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2014, 09:28:19 PM »

What? He has no business even addressing this beyond "We're looking into the criminal violations committed".

It was a private business decision to protect their company. And the deal was basically set when the theater chain - the ones who really killed the project - decided not to show it.

Let's be real - he probably decided to pile on Sony because of the racist comments about him in the e-mail.

Well, it's also a matter of a foreign state intimidating American companies into doing certain things- in the United States. In a way, it's an infringement on our sovereignty.

Absolutely - and that's why he should be announcing what concrete steps we'll be taking to punish the perpetrators, and to beef up our cybersecurity, rather than hectoring a private business taking a measure to protect their interests - especially since they weren't the ones preventing people from seeing this movie.

Well it's a bad precedent to have set. Did he say the other things you mentioned? I feel like he did.
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2014, 09:42:03 PM »

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Not such a terrible suggestion, tbh.
See? Another reason why Mitt Romney should've been elected in 2012.

Things that happened under Obama:
- Ebola
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- Justin Bieber's rise to fame
- Miley Cyrus
- Amanda Bynes
- YOLO
- swag

....and now this. Way to go, Obummer.
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2014, 10:49:41 PM »

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Not such a terrible suggestion, tbh.
See? Another reason why Mitt Romney should've been elected in 2012.

Things that happened under Obama:
- Ebola
- NSA
- VA scandal
- Justin Bieber's rise to fame
- Miley Cyrus
- Amanda Bynes
- YOLO
- swag

....and now this. Way to go, Obummer.

Exactly!  If Mitt Romney had been elected, he'd have got unemployment under 6% by 2016.  And even if Newt Gingrich had been elected instead, we'd have gasoline down to $2.50/gal.

OBAMA = FAILURE
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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2014, 11:10:45 PM »

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Not such a terrible suggestion, tbh.
See? Another reason why Mitt Romney should've been elected in 2012.

Things that happened under Obama:
- Ebola
- NSA
- VA scandal
- Justin Bieber's rise to fame
- Miley Cyrus
- Amanda Bynes
- YOLO
- swag

....and now this. Way to go, Obummer.

Exactly!  If Mitt Romney had been elected, he'd have got unemployment under 6% by 2016.  And even if Newt Gingrich had been elected instead, we'd have gasoline down to $2.50/gal.

OBAMA = FAILURE

California only created 90,000 new jobs last month. Our economy is dead.
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2014, 11:42:38 PM »

What? He has no business even addressing this beyond "We're looking into the criminal violations committed".

It was a private business decision to protect their company. And the deal was basically set when the theater chain - the ones who really killed the project - decided not to show it.

Let's be real - he probably decided to pile on Sony because of the racist comments about him in the e-mail.

It wasn't really about business, the movie was pulled because of terrorist threats. That is a very dangerous thing, because it allows an out of control foreign government to extend control beyond it's borders. This isn't just about business, it's about national security.
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2014, 11:57:26 PM »

What? He has no business even addressing this beyond "We're looking into the criminal violations committed".

It was a private business decision to protect their company. And the deal was basically set when the theater chain - the ones who really killed the project - decided not to show it.

Let's be real - he probably decided to pile on Sony because of the racist comments about him in the e-mail.
Yeah, this. They reason they can't show the movie because the theater companies wouldn't allow them to. Obama obviously knows this and is just concern trolling.

lol so Obama's getting payback?  Roll Eyes  Riiiight.  'Cause he's such a vengeful person!  
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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2014, 12:06:36 AM »

lol so Obama's getting payback?  Roll Eyes  Riiiight.  'Cause he's such a vengeful person!  
I wouldn't call it "vengeance" but why else would he do this? Sony met with a White House advisor and it wasn't even their fault the movie was pulled to begin with as Obama is undoubtedly aware. Either he was pissed off by the emails or he's just being a dick.
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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2014, 01:10:58 PM »

A mushroom cloud needs to be rising above Pyongyang tomorrow morning.

Jokes aside, the President isn't wrong. Sony should not have backed down, and more to the point, we need to retaliate through our own cyber warfare.
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