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« on: December 21, 2014, 03:44:25 PM »

Clearly these people care a lot about Islamic values...

How should you know? I think it's arrogant for us non-Muslim to claim that that and that Muslim doesn't follow Islamic values. Let Muslims show in act and speech what Islamic values are, and then we can choose what we think about them.
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2014, 01:42:37 PM »

Clearly these people care a lot about Islamic values...

How should you know? I think it's arrogant for us non-Muslim to claim that that and that Muslim doesn't follow Islamic values. Let Muslims show in act and speech what Islamic values are, and then we can choose what we think about them.

I remember reading a few studies that showed that a large number of Islamic terrorists/militants/whatever-you-wanna-call them had a rudimentary and highly simplistic understanding of Islam, at best-and increasingly influenced by a number of notorious clerics (or even actual terrorists like bin Laden or al-Zawahiri), particularly the ones who have built large followings online and on social media.

I have no doubt that's correct, I just happen to find it a disgusting example of cultural imperialism, when people decides to define other people's religion. Yes I know they're brown people, but that doesn't mean that they can't define their religion on their own. They don't need us to tell what Islamic values is. They can define them on their own without the help of us non-believers.


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I don't follow you, that's like saying that the military and police act against the law, when there's martial law and they act inside the powers this gives them.

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I of course think we should hold people up to the values they preach, but I don't think ISIS are doing anything that other than ISIS preach. So ISIS fully follow Islam as ISIS has defined Islam.

But I admire all the many (hopeful the vast majority) Muslims which are disgusted by the acts of ISIS and define Islam in other just as legitime ways, and in my eyes more acceptable ways to the rest of us.

But that doesn't change the fact that, it's Muslims, not us unbelievers whether friendly or unfriendly to Islam, who have the right to define their faith.
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