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Question: Who was the better president?
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« on: December 21, 2014, 05:27:58 PM »

Carter again, but this poll will probably be closer than the Nixon one.
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2014, 05:35:12 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2014, 05:44:37 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2014, 06:00:01 PM »

Carter again, but this poll will probably be closer than the Nixon one.
Closer? Carter is going to win in a landslide here in Atlas.
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2014, 06:06:37 PM »

It's hard to make a cogent case that Reagan, for all his many errors, was not a better President than the second-worst of the 20th century.
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2014, 06:06:52 PM »

Carter again, but this poll will probably be closer than the Nixon one.
Closer? Carter is going to win in a landslide here in Atlas.

Right now Reagan is winning 8-4 on the supposedly liberal Atlas.
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2014, 06:26:01 PM »


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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2014, 06:40:40 PM »

Jimmy Carter was an awful politician.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2014, 06:42:31 PM »

The guy who didn't sell arms to our sworn enemy Iran.
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2014, 06:49:24 PM »

Atlas hates "Moderate Heroes" more than even Conservatives sometimes.

I voted Carter, since even Nixon is better than Reagan.

The man who told the nation to be careful over the man whose very model embraces greed and over-consumption.

The man who brokered Camp David, returned the Panama Canal Zone, normalized China relations, created the Department of Education, and came up with SALT II, and that's not counting draft pardons, environmental record, or mental health work that came of Rosalynn Carter.


Over the man who wasted billions and billions on "Star Wars", blamed trees for pollution, sabotaged Hostage Crisis talks the same way Nixon did in '68, allowed the Iran-Contra, supported Apartheid, and is pretty much to blame for the "Welfare Queen" rhetoric. And job growth was actually less than under Carter, and as Obama detractors say...what jobs did come back were abysmal ones. Oh and of course the Drug War idiocy.

Oh yeah and in conduct the former who respectfully thanked his opponent for the good, vs the latter who was somehow even nastier and less crediting than FDR was to Hoover.


For all the gaping flaws Carter had in execution, he's still ended up doing a lot more useful things than everyone succeeding him, and if it weren't for Reagan, most of his policies effects would've really brought things forward.

Nixon had more honor than the Gipper.
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2014, 06:59:26 PM »

Reagan is the answer.
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2014, 07:05:39 PM »

Reagan has quite a few colossal black marks on his legacy (HIV/AIDS, Apartheid/Khmer Rouge support, Race-baiting, the Deficit) that should probably cause him to lose even if one ignores his perfidious economic policies. Even when compared to a less than successful POTUS.
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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2014, 07:06:13 PM »

Carter, no contest.
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2014, 07:09:59 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2014, 07:15:19 PM »

Carter was ineffective on taming inflation and goofed a bit on Iran and public relations, while Reagan was a wontonly destructive President who can be blamed for a ton of crap that's wrong with America today.


I don't understand why people think Reagan could possibly be better than the middling Carter, let alone an objectively good President. Virtually everything about Reagan's Presidency is completely bad.
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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2014, 07:18:04 PM »

Ronald Reagan, even if with some major flaws, had some big accomplishments that can't be overshadowed. As much as I believe Carter is underrated, I think Reagan was an essential President in our transition to a modern country, and I don't think Carter could've been in the same fashion.
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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2014, 07:27:10 PM »

@Maxwell: You must not consider having clean air or water,and being utterly weaned away from fossil fuels a big transition to a modern country then.

After if Reagan hadn't completely erased that, that would've been Carter's greatest legacy.

@Clarko: If by goof you mean "completely locked out on the wrong end of sabotage" then yeah, you have it right.
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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2014, 09:13:17 PM »

Reagan, although I like Carter too.
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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2014, 09:23:32 PM »

Reagan (sane).
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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2014, 10:14:00 PM »

The man who told the nation to be careful over the man whose very model embraces greed and over-consumption.
Considering you've voiced strong support for Keynesianism in many of your posts, I'm curious as to what you think is wrong with "over-consumption"? Because the entire point of Keynesian economic policy is to get people to spend as much as possible on consumption.
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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2014, 11:37:38 PM »

Reagan is never the answer.
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2014, 03:20:32 AM »

It's hard to make a cogent case that Reagan, for all his many errors, was not a better President than the second-worst of the 20th century.
Well yeah Reagan was better than Hoover, but what does that have to do with this poll?  (The worst being Wilson of course.)
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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2014, 10:35:50 AM »

Reagan was more successful and presided over better conditions, but had more harmful errors and so on. Depends on what you prioritize.
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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2014, 10:44:08 AM »

Jimmy Carter
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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2014, 09:10:20 PM »

Carter may not have been a great president, but he wasn't a particularly bad president either.  Reagan was lousy. 
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