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Grumpier Than Uncle Joe
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« on: December 22, 2014, 12:55:24 PM »

They're probably part BLACK.  Oh my!!

Many Americans who call themselves white might be surprised to find out that they have some African ancestry. Especially in the South:
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2014, 01:51:50 PM »

Everyone has African ancestry, so no surprise.
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2014, 03:24:11 PM »

Yeah.  I mean, I have Arkansan ancestors, so I was almost surprised when I got my 23andMe results back and I didn't have any African ancestry.  It's been really interesting, though, when I get genetic cousins who are black (which, given my ancestry, presumably means that some distant relative of mine had a dalliance with a slave; or the link is far back enough that it doesn't really show up in my DNA).  It really makes me sad how apologetic some of their messages are.
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2014, 05:41:48 PM »

not remotely a surprise. If we applied the one-drop rule in reverse, pretty much American blacks would be white except for a few recent migrants.
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2014, 06:08:33 PM »

That means Southerners should begin calling liberals racist whenever they call us ignorant, knuckle-dragging, tea-bagging, redneck cavemen bigots en masse. I've always been perplexed at the PC double standard espoused by many on the left.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2014, 06:13:50 PM »

Those darn liberal science lies.
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2014, 08:21:46 PM »

No biggie. They'll turn this around and say, "Voter ID isn't racist. It isn't disenfranchising African-Americans. Why, I'm African-American and see nothing wrong with it!"
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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2014, 03:05:15 AM »

And then there's the interesting fact that blacks seem to be the only ones without Neanderthal ancestry.
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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2014, 09:09:25 AM »

Everyone has African ancestry, so no surprise.

About 18,000 years ago (the time of the Last Glacial Maximum) there were practically no modern humans in Europe. Ice sheets reached the modern-day sites of London, Berlin, and Warsaw. To the south of the ice sheets as far as the Pyrenees, Alps, Carpathians, and Caucasus  was either polar desert  or a terrain known as steppe-tundra (sparse tufts of grass in appearing among lichens and mosses). The Hungarian Plain was practically desert, and the Mediterranean Basin was cold, dry steppe to cold desert.

Europe and the Middle East got populated largely from East Africa as glacial conditions abated... and the people entering from Africa looked much like modern Ethiopians and Somalis.   
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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2014, 10:14:59 AM »

That means Southerners should begin calling liberals racist whenever they call us ignorant, knuckle-dragging, tea-bagging, redneck cavemen bigots en masse. I've always been perplexed at the PC double standard espoused by many on the left.

The elitist mentality that so many on the liberal side have about the American South is remarkable.  They could learn a thing or two about manners and being dignified had they ever traveled south of the Mason-Dixon. 

I am treated worse by the self-annointed tolerant "LGBT" crowd in California than I am by cultural conservative Americans in the South.

Maybe some diversity training is needed on the left so they don't have so much antipathy and stereotypes towards America
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2014, 10:47:32 AM »

Everyone has African ancestry, so no surprise.

About 18,000 years ago (the time of the Last Glacial Maximum) there were practically no modern humans in Europe. Ice sheets reached the modern-day sites of London, Berlin, and Warsaw. To the south of the ice sheets as far as the Pyrenees, Alps, Carpathians, and Caucasus  was either polar desert  or a terrain known as steppe-tundra (sparse tufts of grass in appearing among lichens and mosses). The Hungarian Plain was practically desert, and the Mediterranean Basin was cold, dry steppe to cold desert.

Europe and the Middle East got populated largely from East Africa as glacial conditions abated... and the people entering from Africa looked much like modern Ethiopians and Somalis.   
That's what I meant.
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2014, 10:49:47 AM »

And then there's the interesting fact that blacks seem to be the only ones without Neanderthal ancestry.

Most American Blacks probably do though.
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2014, 11:42:36 AM »

That means Southerners should begin calling liberals racist whenever they call us ignorant, knuckle-dragging, tea-bagging, redneck cavemen bigots en masse. I've always been perplexed at the PC double standard espoused by many on the left.

The elitist mentality that so many on the liberal side have about the American South is remarkable.  They could learn a thing or two about manners and being dignified had they ever traveled south of the Mason-Dixon. 

I am treated worse by the self-annointed tolerant "LGBT" crowd in California than I am by cultural conservative Americans in the South.

Maybe some diversity training is needed on the left so they don't have so much antipathy and stereotypes towards America

Much of it is about politics -- and we find plenty of people who would rather live in a place where people drive on the left side of the road than live in the 'wrong' part of America, where the political monsters live. 
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2014, 11:55:57 AM »

And then there's the interesting fact that blacks seem to be the only ones without Neanderthal ancestry.

Most American Blacks probably do though.

African blacks likely have no Neanderthal ancestry.

On Who Do You Think You Are?, the football star Emmet Smith was surprised to find from a genealogist that having slightly less than 10% Caucasoid ancestry was unusually rare for Americans descended from slaves -- indeed that almost all such Americans had more Caucasoid ancestry.   
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2014, 03:16:16 PM »

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I have no problem with leftists feeling that way.  Keeps the House in GOP control.
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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2014, 03:19:52 PM »

I thought this was rather well known, I'm not sure you really will surprise most White southerners, by suggesting that they had a black ancestor in the 19th or 18th century. Maybe you would surprise them if you said it was their grandfather.... maybe.

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« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2014, 03:30:13 PM »
« Edited: December 23, 2014, 03:32:27 PM by ingemann »

And then there's the interesting fact that blacks seem to be the only ones without Neanderthal ancestry.

Most American Blacks probably do though.

African blacks likely have no Neanderthal ancestry.

On Who Do You Think You Are?, the football star Emmet Smith was surprised to find from a genealogist that having slightly less than 10% Caucasoid ancestry was unusually rare for Americans descended from slaves -- indeed that almost all such Americans had more Caucasoid ancestry.  

The Neanderthal ancestory exist in all Eurasian populations, and it's also found among some African groups, like the North Africans and the population of East Africa from Sudan to Somalia (who's part of the Eurasian population, and in fact if we define them by their genes they're black skinned Caucasians, rather than a distinct African population).

So the African-Americans a group which usual have between 15-30% White ancestry (through some African-American populations like the island population of the Gullah have as low as 2% White ancestry) is likely to have inherent Neanderthal genes from their White ancestors.
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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2014, 03:59:13 PM »

I'm assuming no one who said this wasn't a surprise isn't a Southern Bigot.

These fellas would die if they thought the one drop rule might apply to them.

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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2014, 05:14:03 PM »

Yep, not really a surprise.

There was a white supremacist a year ago that found out he's 14% sub-Saharan African. It was hilarious.
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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2014, 05:52:04 PM »

Yep, not really a surprise.

There was a white supremacist a year ago that found out he's 14% sub-Saharan African. It was hilarious.

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