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« Reply #925 on: April 30, 2015, 12:33:00 PM »

Yeah, the Fiorina candidacy has gotta be one of the strangest Pub things this cycle.

I don't even know what Fiorina would be looking for in terms of a cabinet post in a GOP Administration.

She was a CEO but her background was in advertising and marketing not finance. Her business experience is in IT, which is not a department. She isn't qualified to run the Treasury or get any appointment to the Fed. She'd only be suited for White House Press Secretary, which is below her pay grade, or an ambassadorship, which she doesn't need to run in order to get.
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« Reply #926 on: April 30, 2015, 06:00:11 PM »

they would run for the same reason that someone like Lindsay Graham is running, to raise their profile and hopes to get into the cabinet.

But what does that have to do with being "talked into it", by the party leadership?  What is the party leadership going to say to them to convince them?  Also, I think you're overestimating the extent to which the party leadership cares about this sort of thing.  Big $ donors care more about who runs than Priebus does, I think.  And I don't think big $ donors care that much about whether they candidates they back are men or women.


you are taking my comment too seriously. My point was along the lines of 'cant the GOP come up with anyone better than Carly Fiorina' I am fully aware of the limitations of the Preibus.
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« Reply #927 on: April 30, 2015, 06:03:19 PM »

they would run for the same reason that someone like Lindsay Graham is running, to raise their profile and hopes to get into the cabinet.

But what does that have to do with being "talked into it", by the party leadership?  What is the party leadership going to say to them to convince them?  Also, I think you're overestimating the extent to which the party leadership cares about this sort of thing.  Big $ donors care more about who runs than Priebus does, I think.  And I don't think big $ donors care that much about whether they candidates they back are men or women.


you are taking my comment too seriously. My point was along the lines of 'cant the GOP come up with anyone better than Carly Fiorina' I am fully aware of the limitations of the Preibus.

Every one of the Republicans, with the exception of Rick Perry, are more serious and better candidates than Fiorina.
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« Reply #928 on: May 01, 2015, 01:50:54 AM »

Webb says he has "no timetable" for converting his exploratory committee into a full campaign:

http://www.dailypress.com/news/politics/shad-plank-blog/dp-webb-2016-upping-profile-touring-iowa-20150429-post.html
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« Reply #929 on: May 01, 2015, 01:53:42 AM »

Webb is being so casual about it. Makes me think it's a genuine exploratory committee and not just a symbolic step like it is for most candidates.

As for Fiorina, I can't help but suspect it's because she knows she'll be the only woman in the GOP race and will be able to carve out her own small niche and get reasonable amounts of media attention.
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« Reply #930 on: May 01, 2015, 05:44:57 PM »
« Edited: May 01, 2015, 05:46:39 PM by Wulfric »

What's keeping Warren supporters hopeful of a run?

1. Obama originally said he wouldn't run in 2008, and then changed his mind. (Of course, the change of heart came before April 2007 , but whatever)
2. She had to be drafted into the 2012 senate race.
3. Bill Clinton didn't enter the 1992 race until November 1991.

Also mentions that the supporters of Warren realize she doesn't want to run, but hope she will come around to recognizing that this really is her calling through the devoted draft effort.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/the-warren-fans-who-wont-take-no-for-an-answer/391131/

Edit: Obama actually started reconsidering his decision not to run in October 2006, making point 1 rather moot, as Warren has not begun reconsidering at all:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/22/AR2006102200220.html
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« Reply #931 on: May 01, 2015, 07:24:13 PM »

Kasich says he's optimistic that he would/will be able to raise the necessary $ for a run:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/monitor_breakfast/2015/0501/John-Kasich-optimistic-he-ll-have-resources-for-2016-presidential-run

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« Reply #932 on: May 01, 2015, 10:01:24 PM »

What's keeping Warren supporters hopeful of a run?

1. Obama originally said he wouldn't run in 2008, and then changed his mind. (Of course, the change of heart came before April 2007 , but whatever)
2. She had to be drafted into the 2012 senate race.
3. Bill Clinton didn't enter the 1992 race until November 1991.

Also mentions that the supporters of Warren realize she doesn't want to run, but hope she will come around to recognizing that this really is her calling through the devoted draft effort.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/the-warren-fans-who-wont-take-no-for-an-answer/391131/

Edit: Obama actually started reconsidering his decision not to run in October 2006, making point 1 rather moot, as Warren has not begun reconsidering at all:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/22/AR2006102200220.html

She had to be drafted into the Senate race, but she also didn't continually insist she wasn't running a hundred times either. As for point 3, it's not 1992 anymore...

I did find this interesting from that old 2006 article though:

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« Reply #933 on: May 02, 2015, 12:51:25 AM »

On May 5-6, Pataki will be making his ninth trip to New Hampshire in the past year:

http://www.wmur.com/politics/pataki-to-return-to-nh-for-ninth-visit/32614834
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« Reply #934 on: May 02, 2015, 10:49:59 AM »

My name is Mark B Graham and I am running for President in 2016  as a Write-In  candidate,I need your support
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« Reply #935 on: May 03, 2015, 01:28:35 AM »

At the end of this article, it is mentioned that Pelosi is visiting New Hampshire this weekend:

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/240648-pelosi-welcomes-sanders-to-2016-race


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« Reply #936 on: May 03, 2015, 02:25:07 AM »
« Edited: May 03, 2015, 02:28:36 AM by Mr. Morden »

Several GOP 2016ers are in South Carolina this weekend for a state party convention in Columbia, including Bush, Cruz, Graham, Perry, and Santorum:

http://www.wxii12.com/politics/perry-cruz-get-warm-receptions-in-sc/32773578

Next weekend, there's another big GOP event in South Carolina, the South Carolina Freedom Summit on May 9th:

http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article20100141.html

Updated list of 2016ers who'll be speaking at that:

http://www.scfreedomsummit.com/

Bolton
Carson
Cruz
Fiorina
Jindal
Pataki
Perry
Rubio
Santorum
Trump
Walker
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« Reply #937 on: May 03, 2015, 06:27:40 AM »

Pence update:

http://wane.com/2015/05/01/governor-pence-talks-highlights-of-2015-legislative-session/

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« Reply #938 on: May 03, 2015, 08:55:06 AM »


In short, Pence is not running.
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« Reply #939 on: May 03, 2015, 11:07:21 AM »

Baltimore will be the location of O'Malley's announcement.
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« Reply #940 on: May 03, 2015, 11:58:19 AM »


What a moron. God I will love his one month campaign!
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« Reply #941 on: May 03, 2015, 01:32:39 PM »

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« Reply #942 on: May 03, 2015, 01:33:51 PM »

Not doing it in Baltimore would open him up to way more criticism than doing it in Baltimore.
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« Reply #943 on: May 03, 2015, 07:18:51 PM »
« Edited: May 05, 2015, 09:29:13 PM by I'm a RINO »

Can someone post a complete list of those who are a least musing about running on the Pub side? I mean the number of names is giving me a headache. Ehrlich? Who is he? Some guy from Maryland or something?  That guy who was drawn out of his CD seat in the Baltimore burbs back in 2002? Are we up to a score of them yet? A lot of folks really seem to want to increase their speaking fee rate it seems.

Already announced their candidacy
Sen. Ted Cruz (TX)
Sen. Rand Paul (KY)
Sen. Marco Rubio (FL)
neurosurgeon Ben Carson
former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina
former Gov. Mike Huckabee (AR)

Has an exploratory committee
businessman Donald Trump

Has a "testing the waters" committee / 527
Sen. Lindsey Graham (SC)
Gov. John Kasich (OH)
former Sen. Rick Santorum (PA)
Gov. Scott Walker (WI)

Has a PAC that they seem to be using as a stealth presidential campaign
former UN Ambassador John Bolton
former Gov. Jeb Bush (FL)
Gov. Chris Christie (NJ)
Gov. Bobby Jindal (LA)
former Gov. George Pataki (NY)
former Gov. Rick Perry (TX)

Has been making trips to New Hampshire, and at least publicly says that a run for president is on the table
former Gov. Bob Ehrlich (MD)
former Gov. Jim Gilmore (VA)
Rep. Peter King (NY)

Has no PAC or exploratory committee, and has only made one recent visit to an early primary state, but has just recently started talking about the fact that he might run for president, and will make a decision soon
Gov. Rick Snyder (MI)

Had talked about running for president a few months ago, but have kind of dropped off the face of the Earth, and don't seem to be laying the groundwork at this point; still, they haven't given any kind of definitive statement ruling it out, so I guess it's still possible
former Gov. Sarah Palin (AK)
Gov. Mike Pence (IN)

So what is that?  23 names in total if you count everyone?


This should be updated whenever possible. I just did one.
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« Reply #944 on: May 03, 2015, 10:09:29 PM »

Perry announcement expected "around the first of June":

http://www.texastribune.org/2015/05/01/perry-eyes-june-1-date-announce-presidential-plans/

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« Reply #945 on: May 03, 2015, 10:46:04 PM »

Webb will announce his decision "probably within the next several weeks":

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/03/politics/ip-carly-fiorina-joins-the-fray/
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« Reply #946 on: May 03, 2015, 10:46:47 PM »


Hallelujah!
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« Reply #947 on: May 04, 2015, 01:23:15 AM »


On the edge of my seat here.
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« Reply #948 on: May 04, 2015, 10:40:09 AM »

The first dropout of the election cycle: Dennis Michael Lynch lol
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« Reply #949 on: May 04, 2015, 03:07:37 PM »


That was surprisingly short.
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