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« Reply #125 on: February 05, 2015, 07:15:29 PM »

One of the newbies (who seems to be racking up a lot of posts very quickly) said that my inability to see something wrong with lame duck appointments (which wasn't even actually my argument) says everything people need to know about my "ethics." Apparently, that's the great moral question in Canada!
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« Reply #126 on: February 05, 2015, 07:27:25 PM »

One of the newbies (who seems to be racking up a lot of posts very quickly) said that my inability to see something wrong with lame duck appointments (which wasn't even actually my argument) says everything people need to know about my "ethics." Apparently, that's the great moral question in Canada!
He is the guy who thinks America is some type of Parliamentary system where the entire Senate is appointed to the cabinet.
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« Reply #127 on: February 06, 2015, 10:48:23 AM »

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« Reply #128 on: February 07, 2015, 03:24:26 PM »

'The most normal and straightforward interpretation of Japanese history' most certainly does not analyze the Meiji Restoration-to-Pacific War period and the Occupation-to-Lost Decade period as one continuous era, far less parts of the same 'golden age'.

I don't blame historians for dividing up such a long and interesting period into parts; especially since when these two periods were delineated, the golden age was still going on and seemed 'normal.'
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« Reply #129 on: February 07, 2015, 03:27:24 PM »

'The most normal and straightforward interpretation of Japanese history' most certainly does not analyze the Meiji Restoration-to-Pacific War period and the Occupation-to-Lost Decade period as one continuous era, far less parts of the same 'golden age'.

I don't blame historians for dividing up such a long and interesting period into parts; especially since when these two periods were delineated, the golden age was still going on and seemed 'normal.'

Haha, yea, I feel like that sometimes too.
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« Reply #130 on: February 07, 2015, 08:03:19 PM »

I don't believe so. I believe the Antichrist will come from Europe.  Plus, outside of the United States, Jordan is Israel's biggest ally which is odd since Jordan is an Arab country. One of the requirements for the Antichrist is he must hate Israel.  King Abdullah likes Israel, so he's out of the running.
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« Reply #131 on: February 08, 2015, 09:36:38 AM »

Nixon had some conservatives policies and some liberal policies, but:
1.He was the last president before Clinton who put forward a healthcare plan, which is apparently virtually identical to the plan Obama passed.
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/29/nixon_proposed_todays_affordable_care_act_partner/

2.He was the last president of either party to propose a guaranteed annual income.

You're right Nixon wouldn't be considered today as the last liberal president, he'd be considered the last socialist president (prior to Obama, of course.)
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« Reply #132 on: February 08, 2015, 12:02:16 PM »

Finally, The liberals' strategy on this issue is and has been quite simple:

1. Get a few states to legalize SSM on their own (this step is now complete)
2. Get some judges, including from places that oppose SSM, to legalize it by force (this step is now complete)
3. Scream "precedent! precedent!" at the SCOTUS until they force the entire nation to do things the same way.

The democrats did the same thing when they rammed through the awful mandate of roe vs. wade through, and if we let them do it with this issue, it'll be polygamy a few decades down the road, then incest a few decades after that, and who knows what beyond that. The Supreme Court made the right decision in 1972, as did the 8th circuit in 2006 and the 6th circuit in 2014, and I hope the supreme court still has the courage to stand up to liberals, and not force SSM on  the entire nation, and stop us from hitting the polygamy and incest parts of this terrible slippery slope.
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« Reply #133 on: February 08, 2015, 12:23:31 PM »

Finally, The liberals' strategy on this issue is and has been quite simple:

1. Get a few states to legalize SSM on their own (this step is now complete)
2. Get some judges, including from places that oppose SSM, to legalize it by force (this step is now complete)
3. Scream "precedent! precedent!" at the SCOTUS until they force the entire nation to do things the same way.

The democrats did the same thing when they rammed through the awful mandate of roe vs. wade through, and if we let them do it with this issue, it'll be polygamy a few decades down the road, then incest a few decades after that, and who knows what beyond that. The Supreme Court made the right decision in 1972, as did the 8th circuit in 2006 and the 6th circuit in 2014, and I hope the supreme court still has the courage to stand up to liberals, and not force SSM on  the entire nation, and stop us from hitting the polygamy and incest parts of this terrible slippery slope.
What a reasonable moderate!
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« Reply #134 on: February 08, 2015, 12:42:12 PM »

But civil unions aren't even a Moderate Hero position here anymore. Hell they were pushed by far right Republican Mary Franson in 2013.

I am curious what his reading is though I'm sure it's hifly esque semantically nonsense.

LOL, civil unions are such a pathetic cop out. Bush said he supported civil unions in 2004.

Uh, not really...from wiki...
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That's more of a "I don't like Civil Unions, but I'm not going to force NY/RI/etc. to keep them outlawed" sort of position rather than full on support.

Wulfric?  I'd really like to discuss this.  I PMed you, and I know you've been browsing/posting, so I'm hoping for a response.

All right.

First off, to clarify, my position is that federally, there should be a law allowing civil unions with most but not all marriage rights (what I personally support; so it isn't a 'marriage in all but name'; not a lawyer so don't really know specifics about which rights I wouldn't include), and then individual states should be allowed to expand that all the way up to full gay marriage if they so choose, but they cannot do less than the federal law does.

Now, let's move on to the reasons I wouldn't vote for a federal law mandating gay marriage.

First, and foremost, there are two ways to view marriage. One is to view it almost exclusively as a simple relationship between two people. It's not immoral to hold that view, but I instead take the second viewpoint which is seeing marriage as a relationship with the main purpose of two people procreating, and raising children to be good members of society. The best environment to do that is a marriage between a man and a woman, and that's the only type of marriage that should be sponsored federally. I'm not saying that it's impossible for gay couples to give birth through unconventional means (surrogate mothers, invitro, etc.), or that we should outlaw gay adoptions, or that it's impossible for gay people to raise children well. However, the easiest and the best environment for children to be raised in is one where they have a mother and a father, and that man-woman marriage is the type that the federal government should be giving full sponsorship to.

At the same time, I realize that gay people can't just wake up one morning and decide that they are straight, and therefore we should give some recognition to the relationship of a gay couple through civil unions, so that they can benefit from things like spousal hospital visitation rights, spousal testimonial rights, adoption tax credits, etc. But because it is not the relationship that is the ideal child-rearing environment, the state does not need to and should not be compelled to give full sponsorship to a gay couple like they should to a man-woman couple.

Secondly, the man-woman relationship is deeply rooted in tradition. Not only does every major religion say that man-woman marriage should be the only marriage, but is deeply inserted into society, including today in states where SSM is still illegal, and states willing to keep it illegal should be allowed to do so and preserve the deeply rooted tradition of man-woman marriage.
Each state should be allowed as much time it wants to take a look at the states that allow full gay marriage before deciding it wants to break with tradition and support it. One day, states like Missississippi may allow SSM - however, if they choose to do it, the ones leading the movement should be state legislators and/or state voters, not the federal government or a group of activist judges who have no concern for what the people really want.

Finally, The liberals' strategy on this issue is and has been quite simple:

1. Get a few states to legalize SSM on their own (this step is now complete)
2. Get some judges, including from places that oppose SSM, to legalize it by force (this step is now complete)
3. Scream "precedent! precedent!" at the SCOTUS until they force the entire nation to do things the same way.

The democrats did the same thing when they rammed through the awful mandate of roe vs. wade through, and if we let them do it with this issue, it'll be polygamy a few decades down the road, then incest a few decades after that, and who knows what beyond that. The Supreme Court made the right decision in 1972, as did the 8th circuit in 2006 and the 6th circuit in 2014, and I hope the supreme court still has the courage to stand up to liberals, and not force SSM on  the entire nation, and stop us from hitting the polygamy and incest parts of this terrible slippery slope.

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« Reply #135 on: February 08, 2015, 01:35:33 PM »

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=207084.0

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« Reply #136 on: February 08, 2015, 05:08:27 PM »

The problem is that Jews get blamed for what Israel does just like on the flip side Muslims get blamed for terrorism. When violence against Jews occurs a lot become zionists because they don't know any better and can't look at what Israel's doing objectively just like Muslims might become anti-semites because of the atrocities that Israel commits in Gaza. I wish that people could just acknowledge that Israel is a lunatic racist state and bigotry against Jews is also ed up, that plenty of Jews oppose what Israel is doing and in a sense the right-wing in Israel probably loves seeing hatred against Jews increased because it means that more will flee to Israel.
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« Reply #137 on: February 08, 2015, 07:38:44 PM »


Where would one hit a child if not on the face? How strange.

Usually on the bottom.  Anywhere else should be left between consenting adults and not for punishment purposes.  The only other time it is acceptable to hit a child somewhere other than his or her bottom is forcefully knocking them or jerking them out of the way of an oncoming car.  If the child is about to get run over, you don't worry where on the body you touch them.  You usually jerk them on the arm or knock them out of the way with force.  It's better for the child to scratch up their knee doing that than to get run over.

The first sentence was okay, albeit mundane.  The second was odd, tho not deluge-worthy.  The rest ...
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« Reply #138 on: February 08, 2015, 08:28:21 PM »

Who named this after me again? Angry
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« Reply #139 on: February 09, 2015, 09:30:42 AM »

Why the hell does marriage still exist? It's the bloody 21st century!
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« Reply #140 on: February 09, 2015, 10:03:00 AM »


Several American posters (Simfan the chief among them) try to pepper their posts with British slang and/or spelling conventions and it's really cringeworthy.
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« Reply #141 on: February 09, 2015, 10:18:14 AM »

Context:

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« Reply #142 on: February 09, 2015, 05:36:51 PM »

I actually support these statements by Huckabee. 
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« Reply #143 on: February 09, 2015, 05:42:52 PM »

the right-wing in Israel probably loves seeing hatred against Jews increased because it means that more will flee to Israel.

yeah this is one of the worst tropes
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« Reply #144 on: February 10, 2015, 01:07:35 AM »

1. Paul
2. Walker
3. Rubio
4. Cruz
5. Warren

Clinton isn't running
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« Reply #145 on: February 10, 2015, 01:41:06 AM »


Check this out:

Obama is at least sympathetic to Christians for the most part, whether he is one or not.

"Everything he does is against what Christians stand for, and he's against the Jews in Israel," Huckabee said on Fox News, according to video posted by Mediaite.

I actually support these statements by Huckabee.

Flip-flopping Bushie.
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« Reply #146 on: February 10, 2015, 01:50:14 AM »

Less than twenty-seven hours apart. Incredible.
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« Reply #147 on: February 10, 2015, 02:02:23 AM »

Bushie's claims that the Antichrist will be anti-Christian and will be extremely against Israel AND that Vladimir Putin might be the Antichrist also belong here for the extreme ignorance it displays of geopolitical politics. That's almost as amusing as that Tea Party lunatic who ran in the DFL primary in 2012 just to run against Keith Ellison and ran a campaign both based around attacking Keith Ellison for supporting gay marriage AND simultaneously claiming that Keith Ellison supports establishing Sharia law. (Emphasis on the "almost" because there is really no way you can get any more idiotically amusing than that...aside from possibly the comment I saw on Free Republic after John Paul Stevens announced his retirement that Obama's Supreme Court nominee would most likely be all of a Marxist, a radical Islamist AND a homosexual.)
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« Reply #148 on: February 10, 2015, 10:19:48 AM »

Extremely flawed Freedom Country from its founding until the 1970s, Horrible Country since.
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« Reply #149 on: February 10, 2015, 11:06:47 AM »

Major FC and one of my favorite countries in Europe; especially for, among other things, the role it played in the destruction of the vile Ottoman Empire.

Talking about the modern day state of Austria defeating the Ottoman Empire makes even less sense than if someone replied to an "Opinion of Germany" poll "HC because of the Nazis"
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