Clash of Kings Sequel? (Just a few ideas, nothing serious yet)

[Lumine]

Hello!

While I have been happy to participate in the recent "The New Order" and "God, Gold and Glory" games, I have refrained from attempting to start another game myself due to how busy I was and because after running two long games once can feel rather tired. That said, the other day Mr. X asked me about the potential for a sequel to "Clash of Kings" and I suddenly felt very interested about that idea.

For obvious reasons my priority in the forum goes to my role as President of Atlasia, but given that I am not running to another term I may have the time to actually run another game at some point in February, March or April. Thus, I am opening this thread to see the potential interest (so I get an idea of how many players we might have) and hear about ideas or suggestions regarding gameplay or the theme/scenario (so I can do the proper research).

Gameplay is something I have to consider carefully (for example, reducing the role of assassins and faceless men), but for the time being here are the basic ideas for scenarios:

-A Touch of Summer: Set in 321 AL (twenty years after the events of the "Clash of Kings" game) and right after the death of Lord Protector Daemon Blackfyre, it includes a series of conflicts dealing with religion, absolutism v. feudalism, new states in Essos and potentially a return of the White Walkers and the discovery of a new continent).

-Robert's Rebellion: Set in 282 AL and most likely right after the executions of Brandon and Rickard Stark, the Lords Paramount fight for or against the Iron Throne (with a couple of players like the Lannisters, the Greyjoys and the Tullys starting later into the game to provide a balance).

-The Lion and the Rose: This is Mr. X's idea, and I found it to be quite interesting. It basically involves (spoiler for those who haven't seen Season 4 or read Book 3) Tywin Lannister dying in the Purple Wedding instead of Joffrey, which means some sort of a Feast for Crows scenario with Joffrey having personal rule instead of a Tommen regency via Cersei.

Other than that we have less known scenarios like Aegon Targaryen's conquest of Westeros, the Dance of the Dragons, the Blackfyre Rebellion and Summerhall/War of the Ninepenny Kings, but I would like to hear opinions before thinking too much about this, xD

[Lumine]

I'd certainly be interested

Spreading greyscale and going crazy as Willas Tyrell was extremely fun last game

Excellent! Which scenario would you prefer?

[Lumine]

Great to see there's interest on this!

I do believe Robert's Rebellion would be complicated since it would have to prevent Tywin and others in order to achieve some balance, which is something that would not happen with The Lion and the Rose (with mostly formed fields) and A Touch of Summer (that resembles a sandbox in most aspects).

I also think making the White Walkers the chief threat will make it hard to make good antagonists of playable characters which was easily my favorite part of the previous game   Willas, Roose, Littlefinger, Danaerys, and arguably Tywin and Renly were excellent antagonists in the previous GoT game, imp.  Who can fill these shoes?  Especially if any villains would be blank slate characters.  That said, if most folks want to do this scenario, I'm game!

That could be a problem, although on the other hand introducing new characters would help the players create their own personalities and engage in a different style of roleplay. And if my initial thoughts end up in the final game we will still have Tyrion, Myrcella, Trystane, Margaery, Sansa/Arya and Asha to take the mantle of the fallen schemers.

I'd personally like The Lion and the Rose, but keep in mind that Joffrey would not have personal rule, since a regent rules for his or her monarch until they reach their sixteenth name-day, so I would suggest  killing off both Cersei and Tywin for maximum chaos.

That could work, and it poses an interesting fight between Tyrion, Kevan, Mace and other powerful Lords.

Assuming the finalists are "A Touch of Summer" and "The Lion and the Rose", I think the playable characters might go like this, give or take a few:

The Lion and The Rose:

Main:

Joffrey Baratheon, King in the Iron Throne
Daenerys Targaryen, Queen of Meereen
Stannis Baratheon, King in the Narrow Sea
Roose Bolton, Warden of the North
Petyr Baelish, Lord Protector of the Vale and Lord Paramount of the Trident
Tyrion Lannister, Lord of Casterly Rock
Mace Tyrell, Lord of Highgarden
Doran Martell, Prince of Dorne
Spoiler: Aegon VI Targaryen, claimant to the Iron Throne

Optional:

Ser Brynden Tully, the Blackfish
Walder Frey, Lord of the Twins
Lord Varys, Master of Whisperers
Jon Snow, Brother of the Night's Watch (right after the battle of the Wall)
Wyman Manderly, Lord of White Harbor
Some of the Kingsmoot players (Victarion, Euron, Asha, etc)

A Touch of Summer:

Main:

Daemon II Blackfyre, King of the Dragonlands
Asha Greyjoy, Queen of the Iron Islands
Robb Stark, King in the North
Myrcella Arryn, Queen Consort of the Vale (King Robert incapacitated due to madness)
Tyrion Lannister, King of the Westerlands
Prince Steffon Baratheon, Lord Commander of the Commonwealth Army
Shireen Baratheon, Queen of the Stormlands and head of House Baratheon
Aerion Brightflame, New Valyrian Emperor
Antarys Tarquinia, Sealord of the Most Serene Republic of Braavos
Trystane Martell, Prince of Dorne

Optional:

Jason Mallister, Lord Regent of the Riverlands
Mathis Rowan, Lord Regent of the Reach
Mance Rayder the Old, King of the Wall
Utheros, High Septon of the Faith of the Seven
Arginel, unofficial leader of the Faith of Oldtown

[Lumine]

Well, I had a bit of insomnia last night, so I started giving The Rose and the Lion a very serious look. To my shock, it seems it might actually be more feasible than A Touch of Summer. You see, my intention was to introduce several changes in the game rules and mechanics, and having a scenario known to players might actually be a good starting point to see if it works. Besides, if the end to the second game is more satisfactory, I could base A Touch of Summer on that.

Besides, if I introduce the planned changes to add more intrigue, we can get more varied characters like Olenna, Margaery, Illyrio, Selmy and Lady Stoneheart (yes, I want to include her, xD), so it seems I'm actually leaning towards that scenario.

I'll open a poll on the subject!